Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jim Burns Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: =?UTF-8?B?UmU6IGJlY2F1c2UgZ+KkqChn4oG7wrkoeCkpID0gZyh5KSBbMS8yXSBS?= =?UTF-8?Q?e=3A_how?= Date: Sun, 5 May 2024 18:02:27 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 62 Message-ID: <94ffd67c-271d-4518-8cf9-59dfe5921876@att.net> References: <499c4a7a-7fc7-4e4a-9b72-a7cd8affe271@att.net> <38955b31-7a34-4d2a-a3ec-32b8a66c0d7e@att.net> <03af2426-92b1-47f9-b32f-3c6f61b40f0c@att.net> <4P8mN6L4GiZRL_cw9VoFlkFRsyI@jntp> <0682ec96-856f-4659-918d-f4f08edada3e@att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 06 May 2024 00:02:25 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="53db80068833060939c4d853c7392ea6"; logging-data="2212163"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/PG/NuvOMoxdSy86EVHnzErVE3A883tBE=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:+v/YZgs7Hnx0VN+7nTyaAKZ6fiQ= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3441 On 5/5/2024 2:30 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote: > On 05/05/2024 10:59 AM, Jim Burns wrote: >> The meaning of (1.) depends upon >> 'n' NOT being >> the true name of any number which CAN be counted.to, >> the way that "Rumpelstiltskin" is the true name of >> a certain straw.into.gold.spinner. >> >> An analogy better than "name" is "pronoun" >> 'n' is more like a pronoun than a name. >> "It is a natural number", etc. >> >> Variable.names are a big improvement over pronouns >> because, in every natural language I'm aware of, >> there are no more than a handful of pronouns, >> used with many handfuls of referents, and >> their distinct referents are kept distinct >> by context, AKA, figuring.it.out. >> Even if the figuring.out doesn't fail, a lot of work. >> >> The expression >> | x < y and y < z implies x < z >> | >> is a big improvement in clarity over >> a paragraph of muddle with three pronouns. >> x y z act like pronouns, though. > How about disambiguating quantifiers so that > something like the universal quantifier > gets disambiguated to reflect > a for-any/for-each/for-every/for-all > when it's so that > things like the Sorites/Heap or transfer principle > apply. > > Similarly > the existential quantifier is often to be disambiguated > "exists", "exists-unique", "exists-plural", > these kinds of things. > > English as a language has a rich variety of copulas. I think that your wished.for supplements of standard.issue quantifiers can be defined given standard.issue quantifiers. For my wish, I would like everyone to be clear on what standard.issue quantifiers and variables mean. I think that, way off in that glorious future, both you and I will be able to be satisfactorily understood. And what more could there be to wish for?