Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Chris M. Thomasson" Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: how Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2024 13:07:36 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 31 Message-ID: References: <4dXo8hjS-AzHfYNb1eEKYA7PWS4@jntp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2024 22:07:36 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a0846936641d3d7e0dac65c7fc9003df"; logging-data="2649994"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19sQBz1zQUbKi1a2Wty29rOu1zOZWtwveQ=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:nSGuXSy4BUJXjDmxZYzF0hoRJQw= In-Reply-To: <4dXo8hjS-AzHfYNb1eEKYA7PWS4@jntp> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2498 On 4/24/2024 10:16 AM, WM wrote: > Le 24/04/2024 à 04:01, Richard Damon a écrit : >> On 4/23/24 3:34 PM, WM wrote: >>> Le 23/04/2024 à 01:01, Richard Damon a écrit : >>>> On 4/22/24 10:15 AM, WM wrote: >>> >>>>> The results cannot be compressed to the interval (0, ω) of the set >>>>> { 1, 2, 3, ...}. This shows that new numbers are generated by >>>>> multiplication. >>>>> >>>> Of course they can be compressed into the interval (0, ω), as every >>>> finite number n < ω, when doubled results in a finite number 2n >>>> which is also < ω. >>> >>> Try to map the closed interval [0, ω]*2 = [0, ω*2]. >>> If [0, ω) --> [0, ω) and ω*2 --> ω*2, then ω*2 is the only image >>> point in (ω, ω*2]. Infinitely many points remain empty. Crippled >>> mathematics. Ugly. Inacceptable. > >> Why? > > Continuity. >> >> [0, ω]*2 = { [0, w), ω } *2 = {[0, w), ω*2} since the Natural numbers >> (what [0, ω) represents) are closed under multiplication. > > Impossible if (0, ω) is completely filled. Every 2n is larger than n. [...] How can it be 100% completely filled when its unbounded?