Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: -hh Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Additions to the iOS/Android Features Document Date: Sun, 26 May 2024 13:05:03 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 35 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 26 May 2024 19:05:04 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="12d56b2b8daec48a5eeebc407b79c978"; logging-data="3675441"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/dOPYd5yyJL2khmkSIKqfSTxn740nUQsA=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:epjVSFkn9YwzmZNSj9sAblz3x9k= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Bytes: 3153 On 5/24/24 9:08 PM, Alan wrote: > On 2024-05-24 09:44, sms wrote: >> On 5/22/2024 8:07 AM, -hh wrote: >> >> >> >>> Indeed.  All that saying that ~95% of Android products have moved >>> along to current design philosophies, while the last 5% haven't. It >>> would take some more research to determine if these holdouts are >>> actually still in production (and for what market segment) or if >>> they're now down to "New Old Stock" that's still available for sale. >> >> Thankfully, one iPhone philosophy, only on U.S. models, has not been >> adopted by any Android phone manufacturers, and that's the >> decontenting of the physical SIM slot. This loss is a a royal PITA if >> you're traveling outside the U.S. and want to buy a local SIM card >> complete with a phone number. While foreign data-only eSIMs are >> readily available for travelers, travel eSIMs that include an actual >> phone number, are few and far between. >> >> My sister's boyfriend had his iPhone 12 stolen in Paris and he needed >> to buy a new iPhone. He had a hard time finding an iPhone 13 since >> there was such a rush on the 13 when the 14 came out. He travels a lot >> and needs to use a physical foreign SIM. >> > > You not understanding the physical SIMs can be made in to eSIMs is not > the world's problem. I wasn't aware of this .. if one buys a physical SIM in a random foreign smokeshop (or whatever), what's the process for entering into an eSIM-only smartphone like? -hh