Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Chris Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android Subject: Re: How will the police find me. Date: Thu, 23 May 2024 21:33:01 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 107 Message-ID: References: <9r9l4j1dauquc3vrg6bghhp6cerpsq01a9@4ax.com> <0ckl4jl3efgequrtb68ed09gmrenl0q8bv@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 23 May 2024 23:33:02 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="33089d362a74fa60135ae51b0aa661ff"; logging-data="2049016"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/DM4rBBYczJBr2x/lxs1Pj4dvFgnNK3i4=" User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPhone/iPod Touch) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Sksgh5bz8aeFmyaJVVwhFO/Z50A= sha1:+YRqPGorIldBy4py40HgMe7Spm0= Bytes: 6450 micky wrote: > In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 20 May 2024 18:38:25 -0000 (UTC), Chris > wrote: > >> micky wrote: >>> In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 19 May 2024 21:58:37 -0400, knuttle >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 05/19/2024 9:46 PM, micky wrote: >>>>> Going hiking tomorrow. Finally realized I was sending my location to my >>>>> ex-GF, but I hadn't told her how to see it. Assuming the worst, that I >>>>> break my leg and can't get off the trail, but the phone is broken or >>>>> stolen, and assuming she actually notices it's 6PM and I still haven't >>>>> texted her to say I'm done, she can see my phone's location using the >>>>> simple instructions I found on the web. >>>>> >>>>> But if she's unable to explain to the police where I am, how do the >>>>> police figure it out? Can they see everyone's location just by >>>>> knowing their phone number? This would be bad if it were for suspected >>>>> criminals and they didn't have a warrant, but if it's to save me, I'd >>>>> sort of like for them to know where I am. And I don't want there to be >>>>> a lot of time required to enable it each time for each new lost person. >>>>> >>>>> Or is my friend supposed to somehow send the location information she >>>>> can see on her phone to their phone? How? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> BTW, I started doing this last fall, without realizing the plan was >>>>> incomplete. Since then the AllTrails app has added the same feature to >>>>> its maps. It probably piggybacks on Google maps. I'll know when I try >>>>> the two tomorrow. The AllTrails app is fantastic in that you can use >>>>> it for free if you have cellular signal where you are walking, and if >>>>> you pay for a year, you can download all the maps you'll want to use >>>>> (which I think continue to work even after your subscription has >>>>> expired) and you can use them without a cell signal. AND, they show >>>>> where on the trail you are. The maps zoom in more than google maps do. >>>>> I think they'll even tell you when it's time to turn, but that's not >>>>> something I'd likely want to use. >>>>> >>>>> I've come across a couple other non-Google maps that include GPS. I >>>>> think the Yorktown battlefield in Virginia was one of them. You really >>>>> have to give a lot of credit to the USA government for putting those >>>>> satellites up there. Who would even have thunk it that this could work? >>>>> >>>>> OTOH, i've read that the whole thing is a scam, and GPS doesn't really >>>>> show where you are. It just sends random locations, and people believe >>>>> they are accurate. People are so suggestible. Many have drunk the >>>>> kool-aid and they believe in GPS and vaccines. It's sad. >>> >>>> If you had Been in the Boy Scouts you would learn to live in the woods >>>> without a electronic device of any type. You would learn about mark or >>>> finding marks so you could retrace your path. You would learn about >>>> finding your direction so you do not get lost. >>>> >>>> Learn to be in the woods before you go off wandering on a hike depending >>>> on your cellphone. Knowledge of the Woods will save your life when your >>>> batteries expire. >>> >>> I presume you're kidding, but just in case, I'll answer as if you >>> weren't. >>> >>> I've been hiking in the woods alone since I was 6 years old. >> >> Then you should know that before you head off to tell someone your route >> and approximate time you will be done by. Then if you're not back by the >> time you said you would be that person can alert mountain rescue. > > I thought it was clear from my post that I did all that. > >> This has always been the case with no need for technology. > > No, the post revolved around knowing with some precision where I was, Which in the scenario you provided of your phone being stolen or broken is impossible. > not just somewhere, anywhere, on a 2 to 10 miles trail, so that on a > loop trail rescuers can go clockwise or counter-clockwise from the trail > head, whichever is quicker. Or with yesterday's trai that went from one > road to another 3 miles away and then via another route back to the > first road, they can start at whichever road is closer to the person > being rescued. > > Or, especially relevant yesterday when much of the trail on a hill near > a river, even the path itself sloped to the side, if the person has > rolled down a hill off the trail, so the rescuers don't walk right by > him. > >> If you want to depend on fallible technology - requires battery, wifi, gps, > > Only GPS and battery, and I have plenty of battery and GPS is exceedinly > reliable. There was no cell signal on 90% of the trail, and certainly > no wifi. Well that's useless for anyone but you. Your ex nor the police will ever where you are from your phone 90% of the time. > But I challenge your use of "depend on". You missed the part that I had > told my friend where I was going on and how long it would take me. Good. > The > technology part is a supplement, so that they will be find me faster. Not without a data connection they won't.