Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!campaignwiki.org!.POSTED.staticline-31-183-191-26.toya.net.pl!not-for-mail From: Kyonshi Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.misc,rec.games.frp.dnd Subject: Re: [NBC Miami] 36-year-old makes $37,000 a year leading Dungeons & Dragons games Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2024 10:38:30 +0200 Organization: Campaign Wiki Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2024 08:52:17 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: sibirocobombus.campaignwiki; posting-host="staticline-31-183-191-26.toya.net.pl:31.183.191.26"; logging-data="2846194"; mail-complaints-to="alex@alexschroeder.ch" User-Agent: Betterbird (Windows) Hamster/2.1.0.1548 Cancel-Lock: sha1:vuP/Ck1N82y7FSL1tG9d97lghCk= sha256:fUb4hkieR4a50qVSYw3Nnr6pQn2jTSKFrXColYZLk5g= sha1:GZxsdum15lza/RL90WkBtMf1unY= sha256:TDCUsUAb9EHrFSY4mS+IPgIECPinXdxBE3pIgZC6dPg= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Bytes: 5398 Lines: 93 On 4/25/2024 11:32 PM, Justisaur wrote: > On 4/25/2024 10:49 AM, Kyonshi wrote: >> > > tl;dr: wanna live of dnd? her husband makes 90.000$ a year. In other > words: marry rich > > My wife makes that, I made 70k last year, but where we live to get that > is expensive, we're in a tiny 70's house (about 1000 sq ft.) that's > falling apart, needs probably 150k, maybe more in deferred maintenance > from the previous owners, and 2 kids in a just so-so neighborhood & school. > > > > Source: > https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/business/money-report/36-year-old-makes-37000-a-year-leading-dungeons-dragons-games-if-youre-doing-it-anyway-you-might-as-well-get-paid/3294720/ > > 36-year-old makes $37,000 a year leading Dungeons & Dragons games: If > ‘you're doing it anyway, you might as well' get paid > By Mike Winters,CNBC and Raffi Paul,CNBC... > > ...in-person tabletop roleplaying game sessions that range from $375 to > $750... > > Is that per person?  Probably not, if not that's about $15 per hour > minimum for players assuming 5 person games.   If her games take 15 > hours (as is said later) between prep and play she should be getting > about $25 an hour. > > ...She makes $24,000 as a dungeon master for the company, plus another > $13,000 teaching writing at nearby Westminster University in Salt Lake > City, where she lives with her husband, Scott. He makes $96,000 as a > communications director at a state agency. > > A little discrepancy there.  She really makes $24k from DMing... for > another company.  Sounds like she's getting screwed on pay. > > "That really opened the doors to networking for other types of work, > because when people were looking for a writer who could do fiction at a > professional level, my name would start coming up," says Murdock. > Getting hired as a professional Dungeon Master > > $24k isn't really opening the doors for anything. > > > Even if she didn't do it for a living, Murdock says she'd still be > planning D&D campaigns for friends, reading game books or writing fiction. > > Since hobbies can become side hustles, "it's important to remember that > creative work is work," she says. > > As a friend once said to her: "You're going to be doing it anyway, you > might as well find someone to pay you for it." > > And that's how you turn your hobby into a chore. > > "I run about three games a week on a busy week," says Murdock. Each > ongoing game, including prep, takes about four to five hours a week of > her time. > > 24k for 15 hrs a week, assuming a couple weeks off a year she's making > $3.20 an hour?!?  Maybe there's some overhead like venue, scheduling > done by someone else or something, but she's really getting screwed at > that rate! > > In June 2023, Mari and Scott purchased a detached two-bedroom home in > downtown Salt Lake City for $535,000, with a down payment of $40,000. To > afford the home, they took on a personal loan within their family, which > works out to $777 in monthly payments in addition to their mortgage. > > So they got a 60 year loan with no interest from family. They should be > paying ~$3,300 a month with a bank loan.  Must be nice. > I mean, I have absolutely nothing against her doing it like that. But this article is supposedly about how millenials use their money, and frankly, this is someone having a small side hustle while her husband earns the money, and they are getting a no-interest loan from her family. That's all... great for them, but what about people who don't have a spouse that can support them doing their hobbies or have a family that can support them? And yeah, it's not a good use of her time if earning money is her goal. It's one of those typical articles about how well millenials have it in a lot of ways. Anyway, the old maxim about making your hobby your job is that then you won't have a free day for the rest of your life... -- microblog: https://dice.camp/@kyonshi macroblog: https://gmkeros.wordpress.com pictures: https://portfolio.pixelfed.de/kyonshi