Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!campaignwiki.org!.POSTED.staticline-31-183-170-123.toya.net.pl!not-for-mail From: Kyonshi Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.dnd Subject: Re: Labyrinth Lord (B/X clone) 2nd Edition Draft - What is your impression? Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2024 12:58:04 +0200 Organization: Campaign Wiki Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2024 11:09:32 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: sibirocobombus.campaignwiki; posting-host="staticline-31-183-170-123.toya.net.pl:31.183.170.123"; logging-data="703949"; mail-complaints-to="alex@alexschroeder.ch" User-Agent: Betterbird (Windows) Hamster/2.1.0.1548 Cancel-Lock: sha1:HeeYr4OIKDV6zDFfpJgbOH5VScI= sha256:ZuSYE/++EaeW8WsjfIW4CQavb+Kf6BT4JUHBHSTdUsE= sha1:s9iJkNSr8/kqLJWx/WUaaklKEHU= sha256:K6sXkRrK0Txyqc+CTPUZhMbYF2AK2KtpCY0zZq/b+4c= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Bytes: 3618 Lines: 50 On 6/7/2024 1:14 AM, Maik Wagner wrote: > Hello everyone and greetings from Germany, > > I had a look at the goblinoidgames.com website to see what is happening > with "Labyrinth Lord" which I still enjoy and play from time to time. > > Apparently there is a 2nd Edition in development and a draft of the new > ruleset is available for download from their site. > > I never bothered about the "Advanced Labyrinth Lord" ruleset which is > also available and I am quite happy with the 2007 ruleset. Things like > "races" as classes are things I just accept and appreciate the simple > mechanics of the Labyrinth Lord ruleset. > > Still I am getting the impression that this upcoming edition is going to > "feel different" - apparently there are Cyclopses which can be played, > the "Thief class" seems to have become a "burglar" etc. which looks > strange to be and different to what I have been used to. > > What I do find interesting is that there is a mini-campaign that comes > with the book which looks interesting at first glance and that the map of > the "Known Lands" now looks way better than in the old ruleset. > > What is your impression of the renewed Labyrinth Lord ruleset? Are you > going to buy and play it? > > Personally I will probably stick to my 2007 edition and I have bought > many copies for to hand to my players at the table. > > Have a good day, > Maik > Well, it seems that Dan, after getting a response to shutting down Goblinoid Games, decided to react by making his own version of B/X instead of cloning the old rules. And it makes a lot of sense, considering there are so much more options around than there were when LL originally came out. Most people if they need a well-layouted clone of B/X would go for Old School Essentials nowadays. And even if not that, why not Swords and Wizardry, or White Box, or etc. pp. I do have a fondness for LL as well though, and I love the old books and their art, and it doesn't really bother me that some of the rules are not quite right for a straight up clone. It is what was thought possible back then. So having a different LL instead of a straight off copy of DnD makes sense. By the way the Advanced Labyrinth Lord book from a few years back was basically just the original LL and the Advanced Edition Companion under one cover, with I think only some errata in there. Not a completely new edition.