Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!campaignwiki.org!.POSTED.staticline-31-183-192-166.toya.net.pl!not-for-mail From: Kyonshi Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.dnd Subject: Re: OneDnD seems to mainstream psionics Date: Thu, 23 May 2024 12:28:40 +0200 Organization: Campaign Wiki Message-ID: References: <7ivk2j560cru7gbb1eb1gl0drn76k2pg6b@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 23 May 2024 10:31:09 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: sibirocobombus.campaignwiki; posting-host="staticline-31-183-192-166.toya.net.pl:31.183.192.166"; logging-data="3219481"; mail-complaints-to="alex@alexschroeder.ch" User-Agent: Betterbird (Windows) Hamster/2.1.0.1548 Cancel-Lock: sha1:VSg72lqxr1eddBXvbw3S85+gBek= sha256:zy6VtGNuO1z1PUS6e4Vz8tUEpLqMZbbOr4yA+xpq2bk= sha1:HmWykdYIo/sVgmVkrD0X38JNK2o= sha256:4kv7HUpT2dd281cUGMCbYMtbtR2mm4uoSOzlsjdsAI0= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Bytes: 3091 Lines: 31 On 5/23/2024 9:57 AM, Ubiquitous wrote: > In article , justisaur@yahoo.com wrote: >> On 4/26/2024 1:52 AM, Kyonshi wrote: >>> On 4/25/2024 11:43 PM, Justisaur wrote: >>>> On 4/25/2024 10:57 AM, Kyonshi wrote: >>>>> On 4/25/2024 6:16 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote: > >>>>> Don't forget warlocks, which didn't use to be a thing but now are. On >>>>> the other hand it sounds as if those they want to have are just >>>>> variations on fighters and thieves instead of proper psions. >>>> >>>> Warlocks and Sorcerers were both added in 3.5e  I liked the iterations >>>> in that edition much better.  They both feel like they should be >>>> sub-classes and in optional books.  Do you really need 3 charisma >>>> based arcane full caster base classes in the PHB?  Heck there's only 2 >>>> full physical classes. >>> >>> Warlocks were introduced in 3.5? Must have missed that, but I got >>> disinterested about that edition pretty quick. I burned out on 3e back >>> in the day and got completely turned off when 4e came around. That's >>> when I shifted to older editions. >> >> Complete Arcane player's handbook. I did have someone play it. It felt >> very underpowered, but it had a lot more sustain with eldritch blast >> than wizards. It's much better balanced in 5e > > If memory serves, Warlocks in 3.x could cast Eldritch Blast whenever they > wanted, a rule a min-maxer friend of mine used for his PCs. > If I remember well the Eldritch Blast was just an option. One that overshadowed all the other possibilities, which is why they made it the main feature for the next edition.