Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Don" Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Dressing RG6 Date: Tue, 14 May 2024 23:33:35 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 55 Message-ID: <20240514d@crcomp.net> References: <20240514b@crcomp.net> <66h74j1vfmbjvvl98jk1k017pimtinv2l5@4ax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 15 May 2024 01:33:35 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="6e29ef8df1bc4f71017b58328b955bc5"; logging-data="490308"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/DW0zKvKD2E/j9HLvHOc2a" Cancel-Lock: sha1:dteB8qJiOojEtev0WdNL1SvpaG4= Bytes: 2877 Jeroen Belleman wrote: > Phil Hobbs wrote: >> John Larkin wrote: >>> Don wrote: >>>> The parasitic capacitance created between coax and its metal armor can >>>> open a Pandora's box of potential problems. >>> >>> Capacitance between the coax outer and the copper pipe? Proper coax >>> shouldn't have any external field. >> >> If the whole system is really coaxial, that’s true. Leaky shields, ground >> loops, and so on, will modify that. >> >> Depending on the application, you may or may not care. >> If the whole system is really coaxial, that’s true. Leaky shields, ground >> loops, and so on, will modify that. >> >> Depending on the application, you may or may not care. > > I've been putting coax inside copper tubes or braids to measure > and/or reduce the transfer impedance (leakage). I did that to > measure small signals in a particle accelerator, which typically > has kicker magnets and RF cavities with kA currents and kV > voltages nearby. > > A colleague developed a special low transfer impedance coax > cable for this sort of application. It had two screens with > intermediate magnetic shielding. It was unpleasant to work > with, because part of the magnetic shielding was a steel > spiral foil tape that was razor sharp. But it worked really > well. Empirical observation always trumps theory for me. Did you ground [1] the copper tubes or braids? Note. [1] Whitlock cynicism can be ignored: Q. What does "ground" mean? A. A fantasy invented by engineers to simplify their work. _An Overview of Audio System Grounding & Interfacing_ by Bill Whitlock Danke, -- Don, KB7RPU, https://www.qsl.net/kb7rpu There was a young lady named Bright Whose speed was far faster than light; She set out one day In a relative way And returned on the previous night.