Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.supernews.com!news.supernews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 May 2024 00:33:09 +0000 From: John Larkin Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Dressing RG6 Date: Tue, 14 May 2024 17:31:17 -0700 Organization: Highland Tech Reply-To: xx@yy.com Message-ID: References: <20240514b@crcomp.net> <66h74j1vfmbjvvl98jk1k017pimtinv2l5@4ax.com> <20240514d@crcomp.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.1/32.783 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 54 X-Trace: sv3-CIykSgb9VmzwzKHqxneReyHtf/MNk/YObhStlIyYEpNHEIil5FhlQyqYXQHI1yYM9ZCPzk7SdDl/G/y!WZo8h8PUhicWm13uRR9TaWA/pL6ePKQw+9V/6MNKeAygCQ6Pf6wFCXSYNMFJA1exUajhtGi4ZC+u!5IxLYw== X-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/abuse.html X-DMCA-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 3107 On Tue, 14 May 2024 23:33:35 -0000 (UTC), "Don" wrote: >Jeroen Belleman wrote: >> Phil Hobbs wrote: >>> John Larkin wrote: >>>> Don wrote: > > > >>>>> The parasitic capacitance created between coax and its metal armor can >>>>> open a Pandora's box of potential problems. >>>> >>>> Capacitance between the coax outer and the copper pipe? Proper coax >>>> shouldn't have any external field. >>> >>> If the whole system is really coaxial, that’s true. Leaky shields, ground >>> loops, and so on, will modify that. >>> >>> Depending on the application, you may or may not care. >>> If the whole system is really coaxial, that’s true. Leaky shields, ground >>> loops, and so on, will modify that. >>> >>> Depending on the application, you may or may not care. >> >> I've been putting coax inside copper tubes or braids to measure >> and/or reduce the transfer impedance (leakage). I did that to >> measure small signals in a particle accelerator, which typically >> has kicker magnets and RF cavities with kA currents and kV >> voltages nearby. >> >> A colleague developed a special low transfer impedance coax >> cable for this sort of application. It had two screens with >> intermediate magnetic shielding. It was unpleasant to work >> with, because part of the magnetic shielding was a steel >> spiral foil tape that was razor sharp. But it worked really >> well. > >Empirical observation always trumps theory for me. Did you ground [1] >the copper tubes or braids? > >Note. > >[1] Whitlock cynicism can be ignored: > > Q. What does "ground" mean? > A. A fantasy invented by engineers to simplify their work. > > _An Overview of Audio System Grounding & Interfacing_ > by Bill Whitlock > >Danke, I means just what it says. Dirt.