Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Justisaur Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.dnd,rec.games.frp.misc Subject: Re: {Game Developer] Obituary: Jim Ward, Dungeons & Dragons designer, died at age 72 Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2024 10:26:56 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 56 Message-ID: References: <66020e44$2$6047$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2024 17:27:00 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="e260913ee73b1e0d7184bb421af641ee"; logging-data="3908581"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+hIH8u8BOpX4h/QbBX2ra98tu+h065RU8=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:dx2YAoXSqAmGNZFwPvukQJKvlb4= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Bytes: 2737 On 3/28/2024 1:38 AM, kyonshi wrote: > On 3/26/2024 12:52 AM, gbbgu wrote: >> On 22 Mar 2024, kyonshi wrote: >> >>> Source: >>> https://www.gamedeveloper.com/business/obituary-jim-ward-dungeons-dragons-designer-died-at-age-72 >>> >>> Obituary: Jim Ward, Dungeons & Dragons designer, died at age 72 >>> >> >> Damn, losing all the names that have been around the industry forever. >> > > It's the unrelenting march of time. The hobby has been around for over > 50 years now (when did the first fantasy campaign start? '71? '72?), and > the people who were involved in the beginning were not kids back then > either. > We'll have a constant stream of deaths coming up from now on. Well, we > had one already. That also is part of hobbies growing unfortunately. I always worry the fairly sedentary aspect of the hobby them all. We lost a number of the greats long ago at relatively young ages as compared to average lifespan of 80. Yes it's an average but it seems very low. Don Kaye, 36 Tom Moldvey, 58 Dave Arneson, 61 Jannell Jaquays, 67 Gary Gygax, 69 Jim Ward, 72 John Eric Holmes, 80 Dave "Zeb" Cook, couldn't find age - must be a vampire :) Tim Kask, 75 Frank Mentzer, 74 Lawrence Schick, 69 Ed Greenwood, 64 Jeff Grubb, 64 So unless they're making it to around 100, the average appears rather low (unless Zeb is raising it by being a vampire with a couple centuries under his belt.) - Justisaur -- -Justisaur ø-ø (\_/)\ `-'\ `--.___, ¶¬'\( ,_.-' \\ ^'