Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Damon Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: =?UTF-8?B?UmU6IGJlY2F1c2UgZ+KkqChn4oG7wrkoeCkpID0gZyh5KSBbMS8yXSBS?= =?UTF-8?Q?e=3A_how?= Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2024 19:07:37 -0400 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: References: <922aae5f-6e7f-477d-b4f7-ce81f205e50f@att.net> <8edceb74-d356-4e99-81d5-76eeb05df4a8@att.net> <92c0ddf5-48e7-4605-bff1-ffe03faa9dd4@att.net> <2eae07d8-365b-4dc4-8011-5858dc4a6c4d@att.net> <8tvqbseHeL7Rg95afREMiE05bGM@jntp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2024 23:07:38 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2052158"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="diqKR1lalukngNWEqoq9/uFtbkm5U+w3w6FQ0yesrXg"; User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <8tvqbseHeL7Rg95afREMiE05bGM@jntp> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 2248 Lines: 27 On 4/22/24 11:35 AM, WM wrote: > Le 21/04/2024 à 20:08, Jim Burns a écrit : >> On 4/20/2024 12:23 PM, WM wrote: >>> Le 19/04/2024 à 21:16, Jim Burns a écrit : >>>> On 4/19/2024 11:05 AM, WM wrote: >> >>>>> 0, 1, 2, 3, ...,   w  = X >>>>> |  |  |  |  |||    | >>>>> 0, 2, 4, 6, ..., w*2  = Y >>> >>>> I answer and you refuse to see it because >>>> ω isn't what you (WM) want ω to be. >>> >>> I assume that it is the first transfinite number, >>> following directly upon all natural numbers. >> >> I answer and you refuse to see >> what the first transfinite ordinal is. > > The original set fits in (0, ω). The doubled set doesn't. > > Regards, WM > Of course it does, as every number < ω is finite, and any finte number doubled is also finite and thus < ω. This is the strange nature of unbounded sets that breaks finite logic.