Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Cursitor Doom Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Chinese semiconductors Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2024 22:20:44 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 113 Message-ID: References: <81l57j17n3u1o76dkoirjjulpo76291cf6@4ax.com> <9jl57jl75daa4rull8cpc0ung6hvbtkl5s@4ax.com> <3qg67jpedsrertumhhg9oeea2n61ac1ct8@4ax.com> <9pl67j1gbaii3jf90g498iqi2bpgbc7ih2@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2024 00:20:45 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="25bf70ebfa019ea48661339866d1ba55"; logging-data="2186611"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/6KjFbb3Paa7XnAMAEqO0W8plE7zgNbD4=" User-Agent: Pan/0.149 (Bellevue; 4c157ba) Cancel-Lock: sha1:N6tDi0ccYD269rZ3bmXYrNHeRwA= Bytes: 5780 On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 15:10:51 -0700, john larkin wrote: > On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 21:41:20 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom > wrote: > >>On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 13:47:25 -0700, john larkin wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 17:49:28 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom >>> wrote: >>> >>>>On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 07:48:46 -0700, john larkin wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 14:35:28 GMT, Jan Panteltje >>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On a sunny day (Wed, 19 Jun 2024 06:18:42 -0700) it happened john >>>>>>larkin wrote in >>>>>><9jl57jl75daa4rull8cpc0ung6hvbtkl5s@4ax.com>: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 08:53:34 -0400, legg >>>>>>>wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On Tue, 18 Jun 2024 13:00:23 -0700, john larkin >>>>>>>>wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/major-chinese- >>>>semiconductor-company-goes-bankrupt-23-others-recently-withdrew-ipo-ap >>>>>>>>>plications >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Good grief. Crazy numbers. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>10,000 bankruptcies representing only 1 in 5 start-ups for the >>>>>>>>year. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Sounds like a normal ratio. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>RL >>>>>>> >>>>>>>The idea of any country "registering" 50,000 semiconductor >>>>>>>companies in one year is absurd. It's the same corrupt fad >>>>>>>dynamics as the Chinese real-estate scam. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Communism always becomes savage and corrupt and inefficient. >>>>>> >>>>>>I do not see it that way. >>>>>>Making crap and selling it at taxpayers cost is typical US Boing >>>>>>Starliner leaking Helium and has their astronuts stuck in space, >>>>>>... Boing airplanes that fsll apart and killed hundreds. >>>>> >>>>> Airbus planes have killed people too. >>>>> >>>>> The two nasty 737 crashes were a combination of bad control system >>>>> desgn and bad piloting, not things falling apart. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>other dangerous products such as vaccins against virusses produced >>>>>>by the same US, >>>>>>worshipping criminals againt humanity like DRRRRR FAUlty it suffers >>>>>>from a milli-tary industrial complex that makes crap noisy shit >>>>>>airplanes that pollute the skies here: F35, an ever raising debt, >>>>>>more than a third world country, >>>>>>a basically 2 party sustem that gives people the worst of both,... >>>>>>A war mongering bunch killing people all over the world Totally >>>>>>corrupt from top to bottom and proud of it. >>>>>>An IQ that gete lower and lower... >>>>>>dolly no longer coupled to gold value, just shit paper. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>It's really the wrong environment for inventing and developing >>>>>>>electronics. >>>>>>>The US has lots of started-small innovative tech companies, some of >>>>>>>which are world-dominant now. I see a some of that in the UK and >>>>>>>Ireland and a bit in France and the Netherlands. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>The sequence matters. Some outfits start with ideas and eventually >>>>>>>make a lot of money. Some start with a heap of invested money, have >>>>>>>no original ideas, and fail. >>>>>> >>>>>>The sequence is that the US empire will soon cease to exist. >>>>>>West coast was always part of China :-) >>>>>>More info in 'planets of the apes' >>>>>> >>>>>>US hates it own people, puts sanctions on cheap good Chinese >>>>>>products and increases taxes so its war mongering industry has jobs, >>>>>>better just give them the money they steal from the taxpayers >>>>>>directly... Even better have them make products that benefit people. >>>>>>That will save lives worldwide covid makers!! >>>>>> >>>>>>US just an other ant-heap in decline, fire ants at that... >>>>>> >>>>>>Darwin applies, bye bye US, byethen [buythen] and club, >>>>>>Get the fuck out of Europe war mongering shitheads!! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> How are your Russian lessons coming along? >>>> >>>>Jan is right about the propensity of the US to go into unnecessary and >>>>unjustifiable conflicts around the world, though. >>> >>> We should have stayed out of WWI and WWII. The history of europe is >>> millenia of warfare. We should stay out of the current one too. >> >>+1. >>This is what Trump is arguing for and I believe an awful lot of people >>will find it *very* persuasive. > > I wonder what the world would be like today if Germany and Italy and > Japan had won. Globalist-free.