Path: ...!news.nobody.at!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jos Boersema Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish Subject: You live as if Jesus the Bastard is your Messiah. Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2024 21:05:17 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 258 Message-ID: Injection-Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2024 23:05:18 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="fadf222fef2764e0c0fd83e16571af2d"; logging-data="1942073"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19cuOkhynUlvScYDTNGOzZn" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:4aQEFfR6DmcFTTUv29JulhXS3VU= Bytes: 15455 title: MASHIACH DEFINITELY NOT COMING THIS SHAVUOT!!! source: The Gates Of Mordehay link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngBNENJcF90 Someone asked in a comment to this, how will 'moshiach' be recognized, and that the Alter Rebbe said something like: the one you want will not come, and the one who will come you will not want. There was an answer to this to the effect that Eliyahu will show up and announce the 'moshiach', and perform miracles so that they know it is true. Reply ... ( ... because, why not rant and rave while you can still do so without being killed for saying something ? Let's live it up and let it rip ! ;-) Alter Rebbe is right I think. If you tell Jewish people or Rabbis about how they break the Torah law with the *prosbul* they couldn't care less. They cannot deal with being corrected. Therefore there cannot be a Redemption, and any 'moshiach' who is supposed to 'mend breaches in the Torah' is probably going to be met by the same obstinacy, which the Tanach calls "hard neck" I guess. The Alter Rebbe even said that 'moshiach' would be _secular_ so the Rabbis are not going to like that either. Rabbis don't want to be disempowered. It's all about money, as usual, I guess. I thought of it this way: they want a 'moshiach' who tells them what they did right, rather than a 'moshiach' who tells them what they did wrong. You should think deeply about this though, and how destructive an attitude it is, and how horrible the presedents are for this attitude. People don't usually think, but think: how did Hitler gain his power ? He told the Germans they where great people, he told them what they did right. The result was horrible. Jesus the Bastard is the same. The believers in this idol think that they are awesome and great, merely for idolizing this fake god from Rome, who tells them what they want to hear: they are great and awesome, their sins are just washed away, just like that, no problem. What they wanted to hear. It seems to me, that what the Alter Rebbe said, was already known and true and has been punished by heaven for all these long years of the current exile, when the Romans came and said: Jesus the Bastard is your Messiah. You live as if Jesus the Bastard is your Messiah, the lawless one, who pretends to put up a cute face, who pretends "be nice to your neighbor", but in reality it is a Tyranny, a war maker, even a Cannibal, and they have hurt Israel greatly. Hillel the Elder was one like Jesus the Bastard, a lawless one who broke the law, but they made him their Messiah (anointed one), because he seemed friendly. Friendly like the snake in paradise I suppose, the kind of friend whose "kind" words take you down to a state where you wish you where dead. A war maker, a thieve, a deceiver. Apparently, they are waiting for Eliyahu, and all manner of miracles I suppose. Can't we just use our God given heads, and restore the Torah to greatness on our own ? Stop the prosbul, stop the heter iska, take down the false Sages such as Hillel the Elder and Maimonides/Rambam, honor the Jubilee on land where possible, and see if that at least might bring the Redemption a little closer ... But no they can't do it ... they don't want challenges, they don't want to be told what they do wrong or where to improve. They live like Jesus the Bastard is their Messiah, some impossible hero is going to save them from themselves, just like what the Jesus people believe, while they break just about every law they can read in the Torah (and certainly, they break both the Jubilee on land, and the prohibition on rent seeking, and the Shmittah on loans as well, although not entirely (bankruptcy law does exist, thank goodness, at least something was at least learned after so much suffering and slavery thanks to unpaid debt)). If the Rabbis refuse to stop breaking the Torah, they themselves will see their power broken, as HKB'H already said he would take away the teachers of Israel, because they have deceived his Nation. This may be what the Rabbis fear, and why they resist the Redemption. They are themselves the block. Their guilt may become great and destroy them, when and if the second holocaust has taken place, and the survivors are more than a little upset about what happened. We are not there yet. Perhaps someone can still alter what has to happen, by doing what is necessary. The brain, the courage, the morality, this is all severely lacking. It isn't even a difficult thing, but well, if people refuse to use their heads completely, even 1+1 is an impossible question. They don't really believe, or they would get serious about things. It's all merely going through the motions, and I wonder how many of them merely do it all for show, because it's a business, it brings in money, and it makes them fit in. P.S. I guess the Rabbis have had their chances by now. They refused. It is clear that they do not want to come back to the Torah. The game goes well for them for now. They have money, standing in the community, etc. This must then be what they are after, and the Torah is a tool to get there. How can they answer to such an accusation ? It does not look good for them, having gone with the prosbul and now the heter iska, and just ignore the whole thing when they get challenged on it. It is fraud, it is a lie, but they don't care. Hence one is forced to seek their motivations elsewhere, and not in the Torah, but rather: what *do* they get out of it, if it is not the Torah. Money, power and prestige, that is what they get. This then must be at least part of their motivation, or entirely be their motivation ? Can they be so dumb as not to see the prosbul is a lie ? It is hard to believe anyone can be that dumb. People can be incredibly dumb of course, or say distracted and not caring, but all this time, and under all this scruteny and debate that this Torah is under ? Hard to believe. I guess heaven has drawn its own conclusions, and put Israel and the Rabbis where they belong: in the exile, aud under the curses. This is what you chose, because your God is your Kiug I suppose, whether you like it or not. That is apparently the deal, and HKB'H is keeping up his end perfectly; for the sake of us all really, for the eventual Redemption of the entire world. Israel *must* repent, with or without the Rabbis. There has to be truth, Justice and Peace on Earth, because - to put it simply - the bombs got too big (my opinion). Guys, listen: the bombs got too big, ok ? Can you see that ? Of course you see that. Stop the garbage now, and we can still have all the toys we want. Just be a fair enough and all that stuff, and it should work out. Thanks. If you can't do it, this will naturally go back to the Stone age, or worse. Do you realize that ? I don't think people do, but when it happens, it will be so incredibly deadly and overwhelming, you will see how bad it all got, and then understand, but likely too late. Wars wars wars, we have to stop with that. Plunder plunder plunder, ripping nature apart until we destroyed our own civilization ... *again* (and again and again), this also has to stop. No deal ? Fine, enjoy digging for roots with a stick again, and carrying all your belongings on your back. An old half rusted soda can will be a treasure you fight each other over to the death. It is so light ! It holds water ! Clan Chiefs will carry it around as a symbol of their power, until it finally disintegrates into nothing, and nothing remains of this world but impossible to believe fables, as the wolves close in around you, and the fear of a simple infection becomes the fear of death. A just reward for a world of fools ? I hope we can do better. In the words of Queen (the music band) ... *I want to ride my bicycle, ...* ;-) Stopping with the violence, the evil, the lying, the ambition, the greed the stupid lust to be rich and richer ... it is a small price to pay, if you consider the cost of this world blowing itself up and plundering nature until everything is dead. Stop creating a hell out of this quite habitable planet. You don't realize, but I think that if you do something as simple as having a car, you are already incredibly destructive, almost like a demon on Earth, but you don't see it because the eventual consequences of all this greed are not apparent yet. The level that this civilization is going to far is already very far over the line, I think. To get back into line, they are not going to do it. Therefore, they will be destroyed, and end up with nothing. That is your choice, humanity, and you also deep down know it. You know you sold your soul for a few more years of fun, and whatever comes after, alas at least you can reminisce about what you have been doing. That is the brainlessness of this lost species. They "just don't care; me me me, now now now; yesterday and tomorrow don't exist." Is it that bad ? Probably 10 times worse than this. It takes a miracle to still resolve this mess, to even survive at a level as we had in 1800 or so. We will see, but these fools are already going to war again, and this time they have thousands and thousands of nukes, and a way to put them where they like, and that's not even talking about all the other weapons and devices they have. Earth is a mad house, humanity is crazy, the price will be intense. I hope of course, it will not be as bad as it could be, but if there is no solution, even after World War 3, very bad things are likely to happen in the coming centuries, the way this madhouse Earth and humanity are developing. And ... stop taking tattoos too. It is disgraceful, stupid, and might also be another design for people to get used to putting bad things into their body because it is fashion or whatever the ruling class has ordered them to like, and it may normalize altering your body, but this species has an evil ruling class who will want to abuse such a thing for the worst possible motivations (absolute subjugation that is). etc etc etc ... [disappears mumbling into the night] Sigh. What a garbage culture, what a garbage culture. What a low level intellectual life, what a bunch of fools humanity is, right up to and including the people in the expensive clothes, and all the way down to the people wearing trash. I guess George Orwell would call it something like non-think, the ability to face an obvious problem with an obvious answer, but simply refuse to arrive from the problem to the answer, by the application of non-think, the simple silence of the mind, the standing still of the thoughts. 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