Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lynn McGuire Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: the future long term financial apocalypse of the USA Date: Thu, 23 May 2024 22:00:19 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 51 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 24 May 2024 05:00:18 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="aad696ffeaf1454c29b72c70b7b583cc"; logging-data="2269629"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1958kvHZxHjylMWRXL9SJ+7v32japsnmPs=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:E87Sek11uyCBzriA7cthoBo6lAs= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3105 On 5/23/2024 8:04 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote: > On 5/23/2024 3:28 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote: >> On 5/23/2024 11:31 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote: >>> Paul S Person writes: >>>> On Wed, 22 May 2024 15:55:03 -0500, Lynn McGuire >>>> wrote: >>> >>>>> BTW, I suspect that USA Social Security will be means tested in the >>>>> not=20 >>>>> too distant future.  The means testing will be whether or not you >>>>> own a=20 >>>>> home. >>>> >>>> /That/ will piss off a lot of people. At last! An issue the 1%-ers and >>>> the home-owning lesser mortals can agree on! >>> >>> Lynn pulled that out of his posterior.    There hasn't even been any >>> rational discussion of means testing outside of SSI (Suplementary >>> Security Income). >>> >>> And when it has been brought up, >>> >>>    "Proposals to 'means-test' Social Security - by cutting benefits for >>>     higher-income retirees - wouldn't save significant money unless they >>>     cut benefits for middle-class retirees as well; such measures would >>>     also pose high administrative costs." >>> >>>   ... >>> >>>    "These facts argue for addressing Social Security's financing >>> shortfall >>>     primarily through revenue increases -  a position that the >>> majority of >>>     people in the United States strongly support." >>> >>> https://www.cbpp.org/research/social-security/social-security-benefits-are-modest >>> >>> Not likely to happen. >> >> Time will tell.  The horizon is short, 2019 at the latest with the USA >> running a $4 trillion deficit this year. >> > So Social Security collapsed five years ago? ARGH ! Sure, we just don't know it yet. Grin. Let's try 2029. Lynn