Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: The Last Doctor Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho Subject: Dave Yadallee denies reality, bears false witness Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2024 11:47:42 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 49 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2024 13:47:43 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="c6b8fc8c20f5cca6f7245bdb5521aef6"; logging-data="2698338"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1899zO4qZ+Nj2G8HrP6qbR4" User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPhone/iPod Touch) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Ef5TQ0IWgHXW0AN779lL2z3KZBw= sha1:UfQ/cBwdxlVG0oW2UQe+wHy5/nU= Bytes: 3419 The Slave to AI wrote: > > Liar! n fact, booth you and Solar Penguin and cut-and-lie liars! That is just, as Daniel would call it, gobbledegook, Dave. You’re getting very angry about not what I believe, or what solar penguin believes, but about accepted Biblical scholarship. No-one with any education about or understanding of the history of Christianity believes that any of the New Testament was written by any of Jesus’ contemporaries, or anyone who knew him personally. Some of Paul’s letters (but not all) are believed to have been written by Paul who was effectively one of the second generation of apostles. Acts and Luke were written by one of Paul’s students. All the other writings are - well - later, and by other early Christians. None of that means that those books can’t have been divinely inspired or influenced. As I wrote previously in-thread (and you seem to have ignored because you were too focused on avoiding being caught in your own error): none of the above makes the New Testament any more or less relevant to Christians. It just means that none of the Bible was written by Jesus or by any direct witness to the words or acts described in it. Which is a simple statement of fact. It doesn’t make all the content false, though some of it is clearly apocryphal and some is contradictory of other parts, so it CANNOT all be literally true. When two writers flat out contradict each other, at least one of them MUST be wrong. Anyone who doesn’t understand that the Bible was written by men, after the death of Jesus, by people who never met him, and that it is not completely consistent, is uneducated. Anyone who refuses to believe it, when shown, is frankly a deluded idiot. But back to the point where you started this: where in the Bible does it say that Jesus (not his followers, or ancient Jewish priests laying down the laws of men) - that Jesus condemns homosexuals (well, physical acts that are homosexual in nature - the concept as such didn’t exist back then)? That was your claim. What is its Biblical basis? Hint: You need a Book, Chapter and Verses that attribute this sentiment to Jesus. -- “Most of the Universe is knackered, babes.” - The Doctor