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From: Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Running an editor from ANSI C
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2024 19:38:46 +0100
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On 07/06/2024 15:48, David Brown wrote:
> On 07/06/2024 12:46, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>> On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 11:31:01 +0200, David Brown wrote:
>>
>>> But many people have lots of use of programming in C without any kind of
>>> POSIX functionality ...
>>
>> And all those same programs work in the presence of POSIX functionality,
>> plus you get access to a whole lot more besides.
> 
> No, they do not.
> 
> And even if POSIX functionality were "present", whatever you mean by 
> that, it would be of no help to many C programs.
> 
>>
>> The fact that cases keep arising where POSIX functionality would solve
>> problems that are discussed in this group belies your point.
> 
> There's no doubt that for some C programming, there are POSIX functions 
> that could help.  And no doubt that this is the case for Malcolm's project.
> 
> That does not in any way demonstrate that POSIX is required for all C 
> programming, or that C is "essentially crippled" if POSIX is not available.
> 
Any idiot can write a shell using Posix.

The whole point is to it in pure C. Without a single call to a function 
that isn't in the C standard library.

And make it fully functional. A real shell, that people will want to 
really use. That's my hobby project. I'm a free man now. I've got the 
time. I don't have to write code that makes money any more.

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