Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Don Y Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: British (european?) kitchen counter electric outlets Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2024 14:49:13 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 43 Message-ID: References: <1quvk5k.dbn40q1ggrom8N%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2024 23:49:16 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="10f91bf08e647935c67246fcfb3c014d"; logging-data="265794"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19uEZNIqqDTW95PyWZo1+4N" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:vw6NsBHVXH4ADFY+ussm996Q1NM= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3029 On 6/16/2024 2:03 PM, Edward Rawde wrote: >> Or, was lath/chickenwire installed to support >> the plaster? > > I've never done plastering myself but I think it goes directly on the bricks. > > https://www.google.com/search?q=uk+wall+plaster Hmmm, interesting. Here, a "real" plaster wall would be applied over lath But, modern homes now use skim-coated drywall; the drywall has a kraft-paper coating so the (thin) coat of plaster acts as a more pleasing (and less porous) veneer. Here (desert southwest), its hard to find folks who will do "smooth"; instead, walls are textured (to hide the imperfections of taped joints, etc.) >> How do you hang pictures? > > https://www.google.com/search?q=wall+plug (not the electrical kind) > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wall_plug > > That mentions Rawlplug which I can remember. Ah, an anchor. That suggests your plaster is relatively thick. By contrast, a skim coat is a few mm thick -- though the drywall adds another half inch behind that before you encounter a stud. Still, the preferred means of hanging loads off walls is to find stud(s) to carry the load. E.g., a large painting, a TV, etc. [Growing up, our walls were plaster so you had to be 103% sure of the desired placements of any hangings! No "unnecessary" holes in the plaster that would require patching/repainting!] > It's likely that plasterboard (drywall) is more popular now. It is used for walls and ceilings, here. Relatively inexpensive to buy and install ($1/sq ft).