Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jos Boersema Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish Subject: Talking to the lame and the deaf, who pretend to not exist. Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2024 18:00:06 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 113 Message-ID: Injection-Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2024 20:00:06 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="d599a456870291f8d09bbde88e034f14"; logging-data="1702830"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/ds40wbfOwNyLNFHlNryGy" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:GvhyGzLoIjivi5WeNsIR0p29f8U= Bytes: 7947 Talking to the lame and the deaf, who pretend to not exist. title: Anti-Zionist Vehicle Protest by Naturei Karta in NYC link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sK5tOQhhP9o source: Neturei Karta You cannot have your own State, because you have overthrown the law of the Torah and went after the innovations of Hillel the Elder with his _prosbul._ Later it became worse thanks to Rambam (heter iska). Previously it seems you have already overthrown the Jubilee on land as well. With this amount of lawlessness as the norm for the most caring Jewish people, who care the most about the Torah, the kind of State you will likely have is the one as corrupt / lawless as Hillel the Elder and Rambam are. The State will become a weapon against the Torah, in the hands of the rich and greedy. It is also a matter of the sheer dishonesty of the Jewish people, including the so-called (Ultra)Orthodox, that they have accepted the _prosbul,_ despite it clearly being a lie. If you are a Nation of deceiving and confusion, perhaps not even close to as bad as the gentiles but still you do not run a clean system ... what you may end up with is something like the Zionist Rebel State, or a State as under one of the many corrupt Kings as listed in the Tanach. Before you have your own State, you need to come back to the Torah, and overthrow Hillel and now even also Rambam. If you refuse to do that, eventually the curses section will come into effect. Every punishment is 7 times worse. You have been warned. You, the so-called Ultra-Orthodox, who are not Orthodox but innovators who overthrew the law, you should don sackcloth and ashes, and cry for the millenia of fraud you have followed for no apparent reason. A few coins from the rich to fund a fraudulent Yeshiva is not worth living in the exile. Stop following the gentiles and their ignorance. Hillel and Rambam deceive you, to follow the gentiles. The Torah is clear. You do not need to go over the sea (etc etc). I do not have to argue the details of the prosbul, but if you want me to I will, however it is blatently obvious that the prosbul is fraud. I do not understand how you dare to go on with it. You must have lost all fear of Hashem. While some may overlook the fraud, it cannot be that you all overlook it. If one finds it, he alerts the others (which I guess I am doing for you right now). Not doing Teshuvah after this comment, if you think you care about the Torah, is not acceptable. Why doesn't your supposed Rebbe or chief Rabbi don some old clothes and then put sackcloth and ashes over them, bow his head humbly to Hashem, plead guilty and accept punishment from heaven for the deception and all the pain caused by Rabbinical Judaism over the centuries. Your God promised you, he would return to you, if you return to him. I dare hope he will restore you to glory, over all the world, but if you fail - or so I read the Torah - to humble yourselves, you may be stomped into the ground with your pretty clothes and everything, and if you still don't learn, perhaps you will _never_ see the Redemption by living in it yourselves. Why are you this obstinate ? You think you can win this ? You think you can keep hammering on the idea like 1 + 1 = 5, and the more you go on with it, the closer you are to making it true ?! It will *never become true* and will always be a lie (the prosbul etc). Anyway, this and perhaps other things, is why indeed you cannot have your own State, because that State which you will form will be in the hands of the rich and greedy who are likely also behind the prosbul. They will destroy the Torah from the inside out, and after that is done, where will this mess on Earth end, with these foolish people and their fake / shallow "science", and their problems with crime they never want to solve apparently ? If you give up, then who takes over your job ? You know why I dare write like this ? I have zero fear for you guys, because you side with the lie. This siding with the lie (Hillel, Rambam, prosbul, heter iska), is so disempowering and so disgraceful for you, what do I have to fear from you ? You disempowered yourselves, you gutted your own culture. I am not bothered by the risk of being shamed for writing long or writing the truth, no just the opposite: if I didn't write it, I would be shamed for hiding the truth and not doing the obvious job. Stop lying. You cannot ? I think it is the end, and you will be destroyed largely. A "remnant" will then return, but perhaps not many. When the bombs fall, when hell breaks out, it is richly too late to have a Redemption with ease. You do Teshuvah *now* because you care for the truth, even when it will possibly damage you socially, financially, etc. This is showing heart, that shows where you belong. How did Moshe Rabbeinu break with Egypt ? You know the story. He had everything to loose by murdering those guards, and he did loose everything. Was he lost though, for choosing the truth ? He is the one who is honored in history and will likely be honored even much more in the future. The silly Pharaos ? They are regarded as fools, tyrants and evil, most people care nothing about what any Pharao has ever said. They are mostly famous, to the degree they figure in the story about Moshe Rabbeinu ! This is where you seem to fail. You want to fit in, you want to belong with your group, your people, your family and friends, your Rebbe, whatever, your "tradition", and in this, you are just like the gentiles, just like the Egyptians. You lack the courage of people like Abraham and Moshe Rabbeinu. Abraham also, he left his family for the truth, being against the fraud of idolatry. Did he do badly after that ? Not at all. He took the risk, unlike you have done so far. As far as I know, not one of you have shown the courage to stand against the frauds of Hillel or Rambam ! No State and no Redemption for you, so long as you keep lying, for obvious reasons. It is so bad, there is no reason to even write this. It is that abvious, it is that shameful. You should thank your God for having the mercy to allow you to even exist at all after this. He does not need to talk to you, because Moshe Rabbeinu already did enough talking, and it is clear enough. You don't want to do, and you don't want to listen. There is no future until you stand for the truth. I wonder if you now read this with anger and idolatry in your mind, like "who is this who dares to write angry words to us, he must be something bad" (whatever), and later when you have died in such high numbers and the survivors read this, they are crying ... not understanding why Israel and the Rabbis where so obstinate and mindless in a time where everything was so easy and risk free, and the tremendous catastrophe they have caused with it for Israel and indirectly also the world at large (by not correcting it in time). -- Economic & political ideology, worked out into Constitutional models, with a multi-facetted implementation plan. http://market.socialism.nl