Path: ...!local-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!local-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2024 01:50:25 +0000 From: BTR1701 Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: 5th Circuit Strikes Down Bump Stock Ban References: <17d91fbd5fad865f$338100$533214$2d54864@news.newsdemon.com> <17d9412e82a8a311$8843$3053472$46d50c60@news.newsdemon.com> User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.5.3b3 (Intel Mac OS X) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2024 18:47:34 -0700 Message-ID: Lines: 77 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-YkuZfIBKbOYqPlv5kDAbe+po//RRUgG5LZxT08voRF/xoroD6VVxfUtyKbXsNphYWlHOPdCXryN0L9y!jwHqo1mrsvNp2jNRAlVRrSvGOGaaEIAlwQw5wL58xyxDa1koEBPPiRuCWkBY8nR7mJnQosJo8dTb!PjI= X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 4799 In article , moviePig wrote: > On 6/18/2024 5:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote: > > In article , FPP > > wrote: > > > >> On 6/15/24 8:30 PM, BTR1701 wrote: > >>> In article <17d9412e82a8a311$8843$3053472$46d50c60@news.newsdemon.com>, > >>> trotsky wrote: > >>> > >>>> On 6/15/24 11:46 AM, moviePig wrote: > >>>>> On 6/15/2024 4:20 AM, trotsky wrote: > >>>>>> On 6/14/24 5:47 PM, BTR1701 wrote: > >>>>>>> The Federal Firearms Act of 1934 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>  From wiki: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The current National Firearms Act (NFA) defines a number of categories > >>>>>> of regulated firearms. These weapons are collectively known as NFA > >>>>>> firearms and include the following: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Machine guns > >>>>>>      "any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be > >>>>>> readily > >>>>>> restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manual > >>>>>> reloading, by a single function of the trigger. The term shall also > >>>>>> include the frame or receiver of any such weapon, any part designed > >>>>>> and intended solely and exclusively, or combination of parts designed > >>>>>> and intended, for use in converting a weapon into a machinegun, and > >>>>>> any combination of parts from which a machinegun can be assembled if > >>>>>> such parts are in the possession or under the control of a > >>>>>> person."[10] > >>>>> > >>>>> So, bump-stocks are patently a "workaround" for a law whose intent is > >>>>> patently obvious. Not exactly a triumph of sanity. > >>>> > >>>> "A work around" is accurate. And the spirit of the law is far more > >>>> important, obviously, than the letter of the law > >>> > >>> Oh, cool! I see Hutt the Fuck-Up Fairy has visited us again! > >>> > >>> No, Hutt, you're unsurprisingly about as absolutely wrong as you can be > >>> yet again. > >>> > >>> The letter of the law is obviously paramount in the context of > >>> jurisprudential determination as evidenced by the 1000-page statutes we > >>> have coming out of Congress, millions of pages of administrative > >>> regulations, and the multi-page click-thrus of tiny and > >>> near-hieroglyphic legalese that you have to agree to just to use a piece > >>> of software. > >>> > >>> If all we needed to concern ourselves with was a law's "spirit", then > >>> none of that would be necessary. > >>> > >>> I'd elaborate further but I don't have the time or the crayons to > >>> explain it to you. Jeezus, Hutt, if I wanted to kill myself, I'd climb > >>> your ego and jump to your IQ. > >>> > >> And how does using a bump stock differ from a fully automatic machine gun? > > > > With a bump stock, for every round fired, a separate trigger pull occurs. > > > > With a machine gun, one one trigger pull is required to fire multiple > > rounds. > > > > Also, the rate of fire of a bump stock-equipped rifle is significantly > > slower than a rifle firing on full-auto. > > So, this 15-sec. video is a lie? > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brrecvXhRVc I don't know what you're talking about. You can clearly see the bump device using the recoil (and Newton's Third Law) to reset the trigger after every round.