Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2024 05:02:15 +0000 From: BTR1701 Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: 5th Circuit Strikes Down Bump Stock Ban References: <17d91fbd5fad865f$338100$533214$2d54864@news.newsdemon.com> <17d9412e82a8a311$8843$3053472$46d50c60@news.newsdemon.com> User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.5.3b3 (Intel Mac OS X) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2024 21:59:33 -0700 Message-ID: Lines: 62 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-YQmYFB0/MOH1I8BSEILd45DGDnC4lGtiC7eH5f7HVz2cWZsn25SqUUyduLDNRJUpXGVjUED4X9LHLzt!Mtm56bh2qk4e9GXzE5bqFoI8FyX3OS7CHZ5vqtT9enb9GA+RwSm/y+pAGugQPVZ6erU2SkAF8okL!3kk= X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 4195 In article , moviePig wrote: > On 6/15/2024 8:30 PM, BTR1701 wrote: > > In article <17d9412e82a8a311$8843$3053472$46d50c60@news.newsdemon.com>, > > trotsky wrote: > > > >> On 6/15/24 11:46 AM, moviePig wrote: > >>> On 6/15/2024 4:20 AM, trotsky wrote: > >>>> On 6/14/24 5:47 PM, BTR1701 wrote: > >>>>> The Federal Firearms Act of 1934 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>  From wiki: > >>>> > >>>> The current National Firearms Act (NFA) defines a number of categories > >>>> of regulated firearms. These weapons are collectively known as NFA > >>>> firearms and include the following: > >>>> > >>>> Machine guns > >>>>      "any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily > >>>> restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manual > >>>> reloading, by a single function of the trigger. The term shall also > >>>> include the frame or receiver of any such weapon, any part designed > >>>> and intended solely and exclusively, or combination of parts designed > >>>> and intended, for use in converting a weapon into a machinegun, and > >>>> any combination of parts from which a machinegun can be assembled if > >>>> such parts are in the possession or under the control of a person."[10] > >>> > >>> So, bump-stocks are patently a "workaround" for a law whose intent is > >>> patently obvious.  Not exactly a triumph of sanity. > >> > >> > >> "A work around" is accurate. And the spirit of the law is far more > >> important, obviously, than the letter of the law > > > > Oh, cool! I see Hutt the Fuck-Up Fairy has visited us again! > > > > No, Hutt, you're unsurprisingly about as absolutely wrong as you can be > > yet again. > > > > The letter of the law is obviously paramount in the context of > > jurisprudential determination as evidenced by the 1000-page statutes we > > have coming out of Congress, millions of pages of administrative > > regulations, and the multi-page click-thrus of tiny and > > near-hieroglyphic legalese that you have to agree to just to use a piece > > of software. > > > > If all we needed to concern ourselves with was a law's "spirit", then > > none of that would be necessary. > > > > I'd elaborate further but I don't have the time or the crayons to > > explain it to you. Jeezus, Hutt, if I wanted to kill myself, I'd climb > > your ego and jump to your IQ. > > Unfortunately, your "letter of the law" is a false god, a pipe dream. > Because any word's meaning invariably depends on one or more *other* > words, and so on ...you eventually need someone to "know" (i.e., to > *interpret*) whatever basic thing someone else has tried to say. Even if true, that doesn't mean a law's "spirit" takes precedence over its text.