Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.supernews.com!news.supernews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2024 17:36:34 +0000 From: john larkin Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: another fast one-shot Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2024 10:36:35 -0700 Message-ID: References: User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 50 X-Trace: sv3-sVi/8OaAoZU85/3WopFaZOq6VMSaHHej5oi3orVqK8GElRbG+4c0VAlQ1ehnFPxbqXWepEDwN4FQojH!Udsuku1PaK4T463ubSNcDro1ofxx3vTsDAehEmQAwHmI5J/z/5XQnb8DgC8kB84KQwnAzDcHOcdD!hq3wFA== X-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/abuse.html X-DMCA-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 3228 On Sun, 23 Jun 2024 17:01:45 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom wrote: >On Sun, 23 Jun 2024 11:38:28 +1000, Bill Sloman wrote: > >> On 22/06/2024 3:23 pm, john larkin wrote: >>> On Fri, 14 Jun 2024 19:02:11 +0100, piglet >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 13/06/2024 07:03, Bill Sloman wrote: >>>>> On 13/06/2024 4:11 am, john larkin wrote: >>>>>> On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 17:22:49 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 09:33:17 -0700, john larkin wrote: >> >> >> >> >>> It's really a slow diffamp, not a one-shot. It will make a nice clean 1 >>> second output, given a 1 second trigger input. >> >> It isn't. John could have tried to simulate his "one second trigger >> input", if he could have worked out what he meant by that. >> >> And it is hard to make a really slow differential amplifier out of a >> BFR92 long-tailed pair. >> >> He got very excited about the 43mV threshold voltage. Just for fun, I >> increased R7 in my simulation from 1k2 to 1k5, which doubles the >> threshold. >> >> The same trigger pulse gave a visually identical output pulse. My guess >> is that it will be picoseconds later and picoseconds narrower, but I'm >> not going to make a meal of it by actually measuring the differences. >> >> -- >> Bill Sloman, Sydney > >When I needed a design for a fast pulse generator, Jim Thompson very >kindly came up with the goods for me and was happy to do it for free. Jim >designed quite a lot of bits and pieces for me over the years. He was a >*genuine* contributor in the true spirit of mutual assistance that the >'net used to be all about. You could learn a thing or two from Jim's >exemplary conduct here, Bill. Stop being a condescending wanker and chip- >in something useful for a change. There are some screamong fast CMOS gates and flops around that cost pennies.