Path: ...!feed.opticnetworks.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jos Boersema Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish Subject: The land shall not be sold in perpetuity. Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2024 09:35:24 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 378 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2024 11:35:24 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="52deb4a53002bcb9f5e224a74800ebed"; logging-data="2014060"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18dNyyZ2GcyQXqnlCwOB5ns" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:TfObuHI+FsD73InemZH7KeEZmSY= Bytes: 24118 Good day Shemim, Thank you for your kind (and speedy) answer. I read on your website that: > By relying on transdisciplinary research, SHEMIM® aims to create > educational and advocacy programs that promote the harmonization of > various systems, thereby building and enhancing economic, cultural, > and social capital. The program I am suggesting on my website, is a (corrected) economy, with which I mean that the power in it remains spread out, mainly by the right to an equal value share of free land for all, but also by other mechanisms (company ownership is free for all, but transfers to the employees once a owner leaves that company and the company is larger than a set amount of employees, and rules which curtail the power of finance primarely in the area of financing dictatorial businesses). I realize it is not easy to distribute the land to all, as Jehoshua ben Nun did with Israel, following the law of Moshe Rabbeinu. However, it is a 'law' of economics, and in Academia they even know that the land does not work correctly in a market. All value in a market is supposed to be and naturally derived from the work people have put in. Work equals value, roughly. The world, the land, is not made by humans. Land is the starting point of all work. This topic alone is worth whole books, so I'll cut it here. The other possibly interesting part in the program I propose to you, is the State. We all see how Parliament is not working well enough, and when I read up on history, I read that generations ago people already knew and acted to no avail to correct the situation. I have also tried to develop a system of State, which is a more closely knit form of democracy. This model is based on the failed Revolutions of 1917 (Germany, Russia), which aimed to set up a Council Government. I think it failed because it was not worked out well enough, and other problems such as getting the economy wrong, and also just doing things too quickly. People need time to learn & adjust. See: https://www.socialism.nl/book4/gratis/Distribute_power-combibook_2.8.pdf page 429 has some drawings. It can basically forms from 5 Minyans together. The Minyans also can remain important, called 'sub councils' in the system, but are somewhat informal. The 50 people together elect a person to keep that group together, and a delegate and reserve delegate (three different people). The delegates then find each other and form a Government local Government, by a minimum of 50 persons. The so formed Council may grow to any size, but can and should elect in segments a smaller council if they become unwieldy. So they form Governments over all necessary sizes, such as areas, villages, cities and the entire Nation. Then there is the system for a King. I believed it to be necessary, although I find it a little bit regrettable that people seem to need it. When I read the Torah of Moshe Rabbeinu, I see a similar regret about Kingship in Israel from the prophets. I am very impressed with the Torah of Moshe Rabbeinu, it is a great work. All stops have been pulled out in order to correct Israel. Unfortunately, it has not achieved the ultimate at this point. I hope it will still work out. Notice my proposal is basically about economics, with the State thrown in for good measure. The Torah of Moshe Rabbeinu is about so much more. I have no intention to overthrow it, although there are some places of potential conflict of opinion. For example, I don't agree with the homosexual agenda and all that, but I also oppose the death penalty (because I am afraid of human justice being imperfect, but once you have executed someone, you cannot rectify a mistake anymore, therefore all punishments revert to forms of punishment which can be undone or at least undone better, such as imprisonment, fines; needless to say, I find torture abhorrent, but so does the Torah ...). The program of right to land in the Torah is also different from mine, but my entire Constitution is merely an example of how you could potentially implement the 4 goals of power distribution (land, company ownership, finance and State). You can also do the Torah system. I suggest to just think things over carefully, but it will be some time before this can be done truely anyway. About when and how to implement all this, for this I have proposed a model of 9 modes of implementation. It is not possible to just slap a new Constitution over an existing society, and expect that to work. To implement it all, I have proposed modes of action systematized from easy and casual to the ultimate if necessary (warfare against Tyranny, not warfare for conquest). These ways of action are: propaganda and talking (which we do now); buying fair trade (which in a Jewish sense is 'kosher' goods and services, I guess); setting up and financing democratic businesses; setting up 'regular' political parties to participate in Parliament, or whatever makes sense in the pre-existing culture. These are the easy and casual methods, in increasing strength. Then there is the setting up of the State (see above), but this just starts as a good cause organization. Organize on the State system, but only do some good, like resque stray cats, etc. The rest of the methods are forms of warfare more or less, to deal with repression on various levels. I guess that's the main points. I also wrote some democracy voting software, by the way. It works and was internationally published about. This adds another level of public control over a potentially corrupt ruling class. As you can see, all these systems are basically decision making systems. Once set up, they make decisions, and that will then be that. You can live it and hopefully it will all work out well. Sorry to go on about it (again). I hope the other Nations will eventually see how well Israel is doing, and then they also want that. They start to copy Israel, and then the whole world might end up functioning well, and we can avoid more (world) wars and Tyranny (etc). Things like building 'the Temple' and all that, can be decided by these decision making organizations (such as the State). Since the 3rd Temple is God's thing, I prefer to leave it open, and think that in the end when it can be done, it will be with the concent if not demand of the Muslems also. This would be beautiful for a 'Temple of Peace'. I'm not much of a Temple person, but if it is to be a seat of the Supreme Court or have other such functions, it could be. It is even possible that people make sacrifices to a 3rd Temple, since it is a form of paying a fine on the one hand, and shows to the people an amount of support for that system, so that they are impressed and the whole system is strengthened that way (if you know what I mean). The systems of decision making are hence set up, on various levels (personal, company, local and national). Therefore I personally will probably revert to saying nothing, because if I propose the system and it gets done, the risk is that too many people will mindlessly do what I say, and that is against the whole purpose and operation of the system. I personally am the last risk to the system, in some sort of way, although the King itself is also a form of risk, and other positions also pose risks, as history has shown (Stalin for example, being supposedly merely the Chair person of the Government, while in fact being a bloody absolute Tyrant). The history of Israel shows the same: corrupt Kings, corrupt (high) Priests, corrupt Sanhedrin chiefs like Hillel the Elder, etc. Sorry to go on about it. Yes, please just take your good time if you wish to review this proposal. Do what you want. If you have any counter arguments or are confused about my unclear writing, perhaps I could help with it. It is not likely any group whatsoever will even respond to me writing them. I have already tried so many times. If you don't do something, it seems likely nothing will be done. It may be that after the second holocaust eventually some people start realizing how I have warned them and everything could have been prevented, how they should have done Teshuvah for the prosbul and heter iska by then years and years ago, and who knows how many people could have been saved. It also still is quite possible that you also will do nothing of course. Which is fine, you should do what you think is best. If Israel wants to experience things this way, than that seems like a possibility. It would be similar to Wold War 2, but likely (going by the Torah) 7 times more intense. The Teshuvah after the war might also be more intense, and hopefully enough to cause the Redemption, with likely much fewer Jewish people in the world than are now alive. You see the anti-semitism and Fascism rising already everywhere. These things are not by accident. Criminals are in control in this world, and they do not want something like the Torah to exist. This means they have a strategic goal of wiping Israel out, especially those who are good. I hope you realize that it was the Americans who have helped finance Hitler, and how Hitler was inspired by America its racist and slavery laws. USA is not what it claims to be for now. You can see that in all their other wars. They claim World War 2 was a "good war", but really it was probably the most vicious and evil wars America has created for their own benefit. They won, so they control the propaganda about it. We even learned this in school: the Nazis where financed also from America, including weapon shipments, through the Dutch 'Bank van Handel en Scheepvaart'. Thanks to these weapons, the early Nazis could not be repressed so easily by the German Government. America did the same again in Ukraine in 2014, and started the process of World War 3. This is the real world we live in. It cannot go on like this. The bombs are too big. Time is running out.... but there might with luck still be some years left before the worst starts to happen. have a great day, Jos Boersema The Netherlands. [Added on Usenet: there was a short but friendly reply to earlier message, saying they needed time to verify what I was writing, and that I could try my luck at some of their 'platforms'.] Arrogant Israel i | i | i ^ i / \ i / \ i humble(d)/listens deaf/arrogant i / \ i / \ i ========== REMAINDER OF ARTICLE TRUNCATED ==========