Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!news2.arglkargh.de!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Cursitor Doom Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Chinese semiconductors Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2024 21:41:20 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 101 Message-ID: References: <81l57j17n3u1o76dkoirjjulpo76291cf6@4ax.com> <9jl57jl75daa4rull8cpc0ung6hvbtkl5s@4ax.com> <3qg67jpedsrertumhhg9oeea2n61ac1ct8@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2024 23:41:20 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="e7f68603601dd8a1f968791e6b68de65"; logging-data="2186611"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19V7nI+8cO/pUFzlrrj5395z1dTUwPY4KM=" User-Agent: Pan/0.149 (Bellevue; 4c157ba) Cancel-Lock: sha1:pUcsD3MXth+r3cyjGxC8GVaWT7A= Bytes: 5229 On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 13:47:25 -0700, john larkin wrote: > On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 17:49:28 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom > wrote: > >>On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 07:48:46 -0700, john larkin wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 14:35:28 GMT, Jan Panteltje >>> wrote: >>> >>>>On a sunny day (Wed, 19 Jun 2024 06:18:42 -0700) it happened john >>>>larkin wrote in >>>><9jl57jl75daa4rull8cpc0ung6hvbtkl5s@4ax.com>: >>>> >>>>>On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 08:53:34 -0400, legg >>>>>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On Tue, 18 Jun 2024 13:00:23 -0700, john larkin >>>>>>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/major-chinese- >>semiconductor-company-goes-bankrupt-23-others-recently-withdrew-ipo-ap >>>>>>>plications >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Good grief. Crazy numbers. >>>>>> >>>>>>10,000 bankruptcies representing only 1 in 5 start-ups for the year. >>>>>> >>>>>>Sounds like a normal ratio. >>>>>> >>>>>>RL >>>>> >>>>>The idea of any country "registering" 50,000 semiconductor companies >>>>>in one year is absurd. It's the same corrupt fad dynamics as the >>>>>Chinese real-estate scam. >>>>> >>>>>Communism always becomes savage and corrupt and inefficient. >>>> >>>>I do not see it that way. >>>>Making crap and selling it at taxpayers cost is typical US Boing >>>>Starliner leaking Helium and has their astronuts stuck in space, >>>>... Boing airplanes that fsll apart and killed hundreds. >>> >>> Airbus planes have killed people too. >>> >>> The two nasty 737 crashes were a combination of bad control system >>> desgn and bad piloting, not things falling apart. >>> >>> >>> >>>>other dangerous products such as vaccins against virusses produced by >>>>the same US, >>>>worshipping criminals againt humanity like DRRRRR FAUlty it suffers >>>>from a milli-tary industrial complex that makes crap noisy shit >>>>airplanes that pollute the skies here: F35, an ever raising debt, more >>>>than a third world country, >>>>a basically 2 party sustem that gives people the worst of both,... >>>>A war mongering bunch killing people all over the world Totally >>>>corrupt from top to bottom and proud of it. >>>>An IQ that gete lower and lower... >>>>dolly no longer coupled to gold value, just shit paper. >>>> >>>> >>>>>It's really the wrong environment for inventing and developing >>>>>electronics. >>>>>The US has lots of started-small innovative tech companies, some of >>>>>which are world-dominant now. I see a some of that in the UK and >>>>>Ireland and a bit in France and the Netherlands. >>>> >>>> >>>>>The sequence matters. Some outfits start with ideas and eventually >>>>>make a lot of money. Some start with a heap of invested money, have >>>>>no original ideas, and fail. >>>> >>>>The sequence is that the US empire will soon cease to exist. >>>>West coast was always part of China :-) >>>>More info in 'planets of the apes' >>>> >>>>US hates it own people, puts sanctions on cheap good Chinese products >>>>and increases taxes so its war mongering industry has jobs, better >>>>just give them the money they steal from the taxpayers directly... >>>>Even better have them make products that benefit people. >>>>That will save lives worldwide covid makers!! >>>> >>>>US just an other ant-heap in decline, fire ants at that... >>>> >>>>Darwin applies, bye bye US, byethen [buythen] and club, >>>>Get the fuck out of Europe war mongering shitheads!! >>>> >>>> >>> How are your Russian lessons coming along? >> >>Jan is right about the propensity of the US to go into unnecessary and >>unjustifiable conflicts around the world, though. > > We should have stayed out of WWI and WWII. The history of europe is > millenia of warfare. We should stay out of the current one too. +1. This is what Trump is arguing for and I believe an awful lot of people will find it *very* persuasive.