Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: moviePig Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: 5th Circuit Strikes Down Bump Stock Ban Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2024 22:28:04 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 84 Message-ID: References: <17d91fbd5fad865f$338100$533214$2d54864@news.newsdemon.com> <17d9412e82a8a311$8843$3053472$46d50c60@news.newsdemon.com> Reply-To: nobody@nowhere.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2024 04:28:05 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="8c64deeef54593d1938d941691bc3ec9"; logging-data="1859461"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/iPB7tmicnHb0pxObh9P4m/8KKg+AnD7E=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:YZA3wrXd3qZxZY0RkfjN7bAQ7N4= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 5086 On 6/18/2024 9:47 PM, BTR1701 wrote: > In article , > moviePig wrote: > >> On 6/18/2024 5:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>> In article , FPP >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 6/15/24 8:30 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>>>> In article <17d9412e82a8a311$8843$3053472$46d50c60@news.newsdemon.com>, >>>>> trotsky wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 6/15/24 11:46 AM, moviePig wrote: >>>>>>> On 6/15/2024 4:20 AM, trotsky wrote: >>>>>>>> On 6/14/24 5:47 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>>>>>>>> The Federal Firearms Act of 1934 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>  From wiki: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The current National Firearms Act (NFA) defines a number of categories >>>>>>>> of regulated firearms. These weapons are collectively known as NFA >>>>>>>> firearms and include the following: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Machine guns >>>>>>>>      "any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be >>>>>>>> readily >>>>>>>> restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manual >>>>>>>> reloading, by a single function of the trigger. The term shall also >>>>>>>> include the frame or receiver of any such weapon, any part designed >>>>>>>> and intended solely and exclusively, or combination of parts designed >>>>>>>> and intended, for use in converting a weapon into a machinegun, and >>>>>>>> any combination of parts from which a machinegun can be assembled if >>>>>>>> such parts are in the possession or under the control of a >>>>>>>> person."[10] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So, bump-stocks are patently a "workaround" for a law whose intent is >>>>>>> patently obvious. Not exactly a triumph of sanity. >>>>>> >>>>>> "A work around" is accurate. And the spirit of the law is far more >>>>>> important, obviously, than the letter of the law >>>>> >>>>> Oh, cool! I see Hutt the Fuck-Up Fairy has visited us again! >>>>> >>>>> No, Hutt, you're unsurprisingly about as absolutely wrong as you can be >>>>> yet again. >>>>> >>>>> The letter of the law is obviously paramount in the context of >>>>> jurisprudential determination as evidenced by the 1000-page statutes we >>>>> have coming out of Congress, millions of pages of administrative >>>>> regulations, and the multi-page click-thrus of tiny and >>>>> near-hieroglyphic legalese that you have to agree to just to use a piece >>>>> of software. >>>>> >>>>> If all we needed to concern ourselves with was a law's "spirit", then >>>>> none of that would be necessary. >>>>> >>>>> I'd elaborate further but I don't have the time or the crayons to >>>>> explain it to you. Jeezus, Hutt, if I wanted to kill myself, I'd climb >>>>> your ego and jump to your IQ. >>>>> >>>> And how does using a bump stock differ from a fully automatic machine gun? >>> >>> With a bump stock, for every round fired, a separate trigger pull occurs. >>> >>> With a machine gun, one one trigger pull is required to fire multiple >>> rounds. >>> >>> Also, the rate of fire of a bump stock-equipped rifle is significantly >>> slower than a rifle firing on full-auto. >> >> So, this 15-sec. video is a lie? >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brrecvXhRVc > > I don't know what you're talking about. You can clearly see the bump > device using the recoil (and Newton's Third Law) to reset the trigger > after every round. What I'm seeing is a NOT "significantly slower" rate of fire.