Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Chris M. Thomasson" Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: how Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2024 16:21:18 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: <87jzkv60u7.fsf@fatphil.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2024 01:21:18 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="c177552828c211028f410b27a8bc1dd6"; logging-data="1286344"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/76C7VsFBEKV1FuQbUjQ4vlwE+zVYx5yg=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:xOfIxdQIr60opHoCB8mDj2t4snM= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Bytes: 2039 On 4/22/2024 8:19 AM, WM wrote: > Le 21/04/2024 à 18:32, Moebius a écrit : > >> Alle geraden (natürlichen) Zahlen sind natürliche Zahlen. Erzählst Du >> Deinen Studenten an der THA etwas anderes? > > No, you are right. But not all doubling results in even natural numbers. >> >> Proof: Let k in {2*n : n e IN}. Then there is an n in IN such that k = >> 2*n. Since IN is closed unter multiplication and 2 is in IN too, 2*n >> in IN and hence k in IN. Hence {2*n : n e IN} c IN. qed > > Proof: The original set ℕ fits into (0, ω). The doubled set doesn't. The set is infinite, not finite. Any natural number * 2 is already in the set. Sigh.