Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Privilege Levels Below User Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2024 22:41:12 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: <5h%8O.4327$wDZ.776@fx48.iad> <1316e4baa439de908666e38c39cd8c79@www.novabbs.org> <9Mi9O.54965$vNb3.28546@fx17.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2024 00:41:12 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="1186807d38ad523ecdef8690d71c9c11"; logging-data="4043562"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19MABytB5nxs2jUfGWRBjfL" User-Agent: Pan/0.158 (Avdiivka; ) Cancel-Lock: sha1:jZYDwofCQHwKz0VinEn4GKhV7qI= Bytes: 1966 On Sun, 09 Jun 2024 14:13:25 GMT, Scott Lurndal wrote: > Lawrence D'Oliveiro writes: >>On Sat, 8 Jun 2024 17:37:46 +0000, MitchAlsup1 wrote: >> >>> VAX was before common era Hypervisors, do you think VAX could have >>> supported secure mode and hypervisor with their 4 levels ?? >> >>“Virtualization” was bandied about in the 1980s more as an idle, >>theoretical concept rather than a practical one. > > I'm quite sure that IBM would disagree with this statement. I’m sure they would. But they invented virtualization in CP/CMS because their attempt at an “interactive timesharing” system, CMS, was only single-user. Rather than make it multiuser, they simply invented CP as a big hack to run multiple copies of CMS, so each user felt they had an entire machine to themself. There were some privilege holes in that, as well.