Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.supernews.com!news.supernews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2024 22:10:50 +0000 From: john larkin Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Chinese semiconductors Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2024 15:10:51 -0700 Message-ID: <9pl67j1gbaii3jf90g498iqi2bpgbc7ih2@4ax.com> References: <81l57j17n3u1o76dkoirjjulpo76291cf6@4ax.com> <9jl57jl75daa4rull8cpc0ung6hvbtkl5s@4ax.com> <3qg67jpedsrertumhhg9oeea2n61ac1ct8@4ax.com> User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 108 X-Trace: sv3-Bf2KUi/9iI1TPtWLl3v03YFQ0+YraprMAGHd3Dl446vgfukF/4iCgUtKDPya4PFeaJMx5GCwqUCb7ol!3wSqzyMJ5G/xh05l7lJ4GxBypT+qMvPcyGAcXTO/sgoIek/PSPAcUqNfCWTTa5L5Tx0iSnpnaDE1!Ath7NA== X-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/abuse.html X-DMCA-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 5551 On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 21:41:20 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom wrote: >On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 13:47:25 -0700, john larkin wrote: > >> On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 17:49:28 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom >> wrote: >> >>>On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 07:48:46 -0700, john larkin wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 14:35:28 GMT, Jan Panteltje >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>On a sunny day (Wed, 19 Jun 2024 06:18:42 -0700) it happened john >>>>>larkin wrote in >>>>><9jl57jl75daa4rull8cpc0ung6hvbtkl5s@4ax.com>: >>>>> >>>>>>On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 08:53:34 -0400, legg >>>>>>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On Tue, 18 Jun 2024 13:00:23 -0700, john larkin >>>>>>>wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/major-chinese- >>>semiconductor-company-goes-bankrupt-23-others-recently-withdrew-ipo-ap >>>>>>>>plications >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Good grief. Crazy numbers. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>10,000 bankruptcies representing only 1 in 5 start-ups for the year. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Sounds like a normal ratio. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>RL >>>>>> >>>>>>The idea of any country "registering" 50,000 semiconductor companies >>>>>>in one year is absurd. It's the same corrupt fad dynamics as the >>>>>>Chinese real-estate scam. >>>>>> >>>>>>Communism always becomes savage and corrupt and inefficient. >>>>> >>>>>I do not see it that way. >>>>>Making crap and selling it at taxpayers cost is typical US Boing >>>>>Starliner leaking Helium and has their astronuts stuck in space, >>>>>... Boing airplanes that fsll apart and killed hundreds. >>>> >>>> Airbus planes have killed people too. >>>> >>>> The two nasty 737 crashes were a combination of bad control system >>>> desgn and bad piloting, not things falling apart. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>other dangerous products such as vaccins against virusses produced by >>>>>the same US, >>>>>worshipping criminals againt humanity like DRRRRR FAUlty it suffers >>>>>from a milli-tary industrial complex that makes crap noisy shit >>>>>airplanes that pollute the skies here: F35, an ever raising debt, more >>>>>than a third world country, >>>>>a basically 2 party sustem that gives people the worst of both,... >>>>>A war mongering bunch killing people all over the world Totally >>>>>corrupt from top to bottom and proud of it. >>>>>An IQ that gete lower and lower... >>>>>dolly no longer coupled to gold value, just shit paper. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>It's really the wrong environment for inventing and developing >>>>>>electronics. >>>>>>The US has lots of started-small innovative tech companies, some of >>>>>>which are world-dominant now. I see a some of that in the UK and >>>>>>Ireland and a bit in France and the Netherlands. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>The sequence matters. Some outfits start with ideas and eventually >>>>>>make a lot of money. Some start with a heap of invested money, have >>>>>>no original ideas, and fail. >>>>> >>>>>The sequence is that the US empire will soon cease to exist. >>>>>West coast was always part of China :-) >>>>>More info in 'planets of the apes' >>>>> >>>>>US hates it own people, puts sanctions on cheap good Chinese products >>>>>and increases taxes so its war mongering industry has jobs, better >>>>>just give them the money they steal from the taxpayers directly... >>>>>Even better have them make products that benefit people. >>>>>That will save lives worldwide covid makers!! >>>>> >>>>>US just an other ant-heap in decline, fire ants at that... >>>>> >>>>>Darwin applies, bye bye US, byethen [buythen] and club, >>>>>Get the fuck out of Europe war mongering shitheads!! >>>>> >>>>> >>>> How are your Russian lessons coming along? >>> >>>Jan is right about the propensity of the US to go into unnecessary and >>>unjustifiable conflicts around the world, though. >> >> We should have stayed out of WWI and WWII. The history of europe is >> millenia of warfare. We should stay out of the current one too. > >+1. >This is what Trump is arguing for and I believe an awful lot of people >will find it *very* persuasive. I wonder what the world would be like today if Germany and Italy and Japan had won.