Path: ...!feed.opticnetworks.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jos Boersema Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish Subject: Re: Majority of young Britons think Israel should not exist Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2024 10:37:27 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 127 Message-ID: References: <688f6jh90sjb2cq960tcqouq19ktoj6i39@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2024 12:37:28 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="ecb1b4a128daf9151dbd96f02ee0de5b"; logging-data="1073822"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19jJYcPlcBVVFPdmoY1JCcT" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:n5i4akwwiWEcetaRYS8Vrff1Fus= Bytes: 8399 On 2024-06-11, NefeshBarYochai wrote: > A majority of Britain’s young people do not believe Israel should > exist, a new UnHerd poll has revealed. > > A preliminary finding of an exclusive survey of 1,012 voters about > foreign policy, conducted by Focaldata and due to be released tomorrow > on UnHerd, found that a striking 54% of 18-24-year-olds agreed with > the statement that “the state of Israel should not exist.” Just 21% > disagreed. A poll like this more or less answers the question: what has the mass media been up to lately. * It is interesting to note that the Governments in the west still support the Zionist rebel State, which also makes more sense towards a World War with Russia, because Russia is on the side of Syria and against ISIS, which connects Russia also to the Iraqi people perhaps, who are under the Tyranny of the USA. USA has more or less an anti-Muslem, anti-Arab and anti-Iran system in that area, and pro-Zionist State, with Russia more or less taking an opposing direction (or so it seems at least for now). This is the same overall direction as in Europe, where the Americans have brought Nazis to power in Kiev, quickly hiding them afterwards, and created a new big war which may end up similar to the second world war in some respects (though probably different because it will probably go nuclear eventually). Hence the question becomes: for what reason is the mass media pumping out propaganda against the Zionist rebel State ? They could have easily taken the side of the Zionists. It doesn't matter what the facts are in reality. The facts can be manipulated to make anyone seem to be the good guys, this is not a problem whatsoever, because people really don't care either way, so long as they themselves don't get bombed. Of course they *think* they care, because they get sucked into the keyhole vision propaganda about some personal tragedy, and that makes them think that they are good people, when they really don't care and for them it is exactly the same as crying in some movie theater knowing full well the story is fiction. It does seem unlikely that World War 3 will be shaped differently at this point, such as for example the USA and their Vassals (such as the so-called European Union, which is the USA its Vassal control grid in Europe) taking the side of Hamas, which then becomse Iran, becomes Syria, becomes Iraq (Iraqi people), becomes Afghanistan (Afghan people, against USA bombing and terror in that country), becomes Russia, etc. It seems to be too late for that. Hence what could be the game here, is that they have computed that it will take such and so much time for the pro-Hamas political support and all that it connects to (see above) in the western world, that they can have their (nuclear) World War 3 first under a pro-Zionist and anti-Muslem / anti-Arab / Anti-Iran and of course especially anti-Russian program, and then in the backlash of this war (run by the moderate/far right, now being installed slowly but surely everywhere), they have prepared the necessary radicalism in the people already, to create a new wave of anti-Jewish hatred, to be exploited by (someone like) Obama, who might ascend to the United Nations as King of the world ? They then blame the *lack* of United Nations cohesion and protocol for causing this war, and stress the need for unity after the war, which will probably go into people like hot cakes during a famine. They then pretty much have their global Government out in the open, which is already prepared with Tyrannical powers (see the Universal Declaration of Human Rights from the U.N., article 29 section 3: this is an absolute and extremely vicious Tyranny). This global Tyranny is then already aimed *against* the Jewish people, which is what they are doing and furthering right now. From history I guess, we can see that ruling class propaganda may take somewhere from 5 to 10 years to develop hate propaganda to the point of warfare, with perhaps a longer incubation period ahead of it. Hitler: 1933 ascend to power, 1939 war. Anti-Russian agression in the west started in 2014, and it became a greater war in 2022, but not yet even close to a full out war. The minds of the people probably have been poisoned enough by now, to accept a bigger war against Russia ? This is again more or less a time frame in the order of 5-10 years. If we project this unto Israel, and this new hatred of Jewish people which is being created on a bigger scale now in the western world by the mass media, it could develop into a war again in 5-10 years ? A bit longer ? Who knows. It seems it would be enough to fit in another Biden administration, and then a Trump administration to have again a World War run under Fascism, and then organize the backlash to that war, with the new wave of hatred just being at the perfect boiling point. It is almost like cooking, isn't it. One pan here on the low fire simmering, then put the heat up and put this in and that, cool that down and so on. They are cooking with the minds of the people ... and their blood, as in butchering them. For the ruling class it is probably a satisfying idea to have a backlash against a World War, coincide with a major wave of hatred against Jewish people, because Jewish people are the people who historically have cared about peace by far the most, and they naturally would be the ones to exploit a war and call for peace. They might inspire people with the Torah and other good things. A wave of hatred against Jewish people created a block to all that, and it aims the hammer of the global Tyranny under a renewed United Nations operation possibly against the Jewish people, so that the humans in general have something to hate again, which they love. The humans then can hate and unite in this hatred, which makes them feel good and connected. The Jewish people are then disempowerd just at the moment of their greatest natural influence (after the nuclear war), and if the Jewish people do anything funny (like going back to the Torah and Redeeming themselves ?), the whole world is basically ready to kill them all "out of righteous anger" (suposedly, which indeed is what foolish people without care might think at that moment, they tend to commit mass murder out of some delusion of righteousness, spoon fed to them carefully by the super rich). * To disempower this entire operation, it is probably best for the Zionists to cancel their operation in Gaza, because it is merely exploited by the global ruling class, and that is the practical use of it on the ground anyway ? However the Zionist rebel State and its ruling class is united with all this, and also cornered because if USA withdraws their support or asks Egypt / Turkey / Iran or all of them to punish the Zionists because the Zionists don't follow orders anymore, what are the Zionists going to do about such a massive force ? Hence it all seems to boil down to basically exactly what the prophets said ... the world will at some point all come against Israel, but Israel will Redeem themselves and ... defeat all. Then we eat cakes and end up all happy ... or dead. -- Economic & political ideology, worked out into Constitutional models, with a multi-facetted implementation plan. http://market.socialism.nl