Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jos Boersema Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish Subject: The Rabbis have cancelled the Redemption, prepare for 2nd holocaust Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2024 15:30:15 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 327 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2024 17:30:16 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="3264132695acef5cb4afc91a192f3d6b"; logging-data="1059802"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18Ng8CUkt+o3I/2PPdAYNx5" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:4jHSql7kRmUW7SbsCAz1ENfjD6w= Bytes: 20173 title: Is the Jewish Year 6000 (2239) the Deadline for Moshiach? source: Jewish Learning Institute link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aVqUMjtH70 The question isn't if or when "moshiach will come", the question is: "when will _Israel_ finally come back to the Torah". You Israel¹ put the thing on someone else, so that the problem is not on you. As if you Israel are doing a good job. You are _not doing a good job._ You Israel failed. The punishments will continue & get worse, 7 times each round. Last time was the Nazis, the next time will be 7 times worse. Also on the matter of the year count, what is given as the year count is arbitrary. The Rabbis arbitrarily made it up at some point, despite the Torah saying repeatedly: 430 years in Egypt. There is another explanation for the genealogy problem, which was argued by some people in a (at least to me) convincing way. Also notice how Corona lockdown occured on the year 6 000. We are already passed the year 6 000 now, by about 4 years. Time is running out for your Teshuvah. You have not done Teshuvah as a Nation before the year 6 000. 'Moshiach' is not the problem, moshiach is ready _today_ but you are not showing up for the Redemption. You have cancelled the Redemption, at least for now. The cost will become very grave, unless of course, you repent _today_ from things like the *prosbul* and from following Rambam / Maimonides with his deceptions such as the _heter iska_ and blaming 'moshiach' for _tarrying._ You cannot deal with this comment, isn't that true ? This is why you cannot be Redeemed. You are yourselves the ones who are *not showing up,* doing all the tarrying and the delays, causing all the trouble. The Rabbis have blocked the Redemption, the cost will be unbelievably bad, unless they do Teshuvah before the next round of punishment has happened. I do not think there is a chance on that anymore now, so I guess, start digging a hole and hope you survive it, but the chances are low. I computed _your_ Torah for you, and we know how bad it has already become in many times in history, so this is what it says, that is all. I didn't write that (although I see reasons for why this will occur the criminals do not want the Torah on Earth), I merely interpret it for you. Israel failed. There is no Redemption for this failure of a Nation called Israel. Fail, fail fail. Hard necked, idolatrous to "sages", law breaking, cowardly rather than like Moshe Rabbeinu, etc. Also though: better than most if not all other Nations. Sadly not good enough yet. On the whole, if Earth is like an exam and most Nations need to score a 6 out of 10 to pass, then if Israel is a 4 and the next best Nation is a 3, you may feel you are doing good because you are better, but in the end: everyone fails, everyone dies, there is no future for this mess this way. You need to work it up until you pass or someone else does, or humanity is pretty much at the end. The throwing stone became an intercontinental ballistic missile with 10 or more nuclear warheads on it plus decoys, and the Earth just cannot deal with this kind of violence anymore. It's over, the whole run from back in the stone age until now, it reached its ultimate, but still they act like monkeys. If the choice is to act like monkeys with nukes, then this world will belong to the monkeys and humanity will die out because of its own monkeying around. This is how serious it is. Forget about all this Kabbalahblablah, mysticism and the rest. What does "ohhh the Sefiroth the Sefiroth sayeth the man with the long beard" mean, compared to a huge city being blown up by half a dozen nukes. Reality, ok ? Deal with reality. The Jubilee on land is reality, nullifying the debt is reality. What does *debt* have to do with *war* ? Look at world war 2, and you see how failing economics led to that war and the holocoust (Versaille treaty, years 1924, 1929, 1933, 1939 in western counting, these numbers do not even need to be commented upon). Historians seem to agree: the war was caused by the economic crisis. The people get angry, they start voting for Fascists, and the ruling class wants war to destroy the poor. It is a perfect harmony of stupidity and evil. It is happening again, except on a greater scale, and with even more powerful technology in the hands of the criminals. ------------ 1. "You [Israel]", meaning it is addressed to Israel as a Nation, certainly not to anyone appearing in a video - and this is usually true of all my comments. I don't know these individuals, for all I know they are the best people in the world, and 100 times better than me. They are however part of Israel, and constantly you see them repeating Rabbinical opinions, and never I see them campaign for the Jubilee on land, or making it crystal clear how they do not belong to the Reformers or the contra-Revutionaries against Moshe Rabbeinu such as ... all of them ... (from Ultra-Orthodox to "Reform" and seculars) because they reject an obvious fraud such as the prosbul. The highest point of the Torah seems to be the people who diverted themselves with the Shulchan Aruch, which is already a contra-Revolution against the Torah, and the rest just cares even less. Seculars generally don't have an opinion on the issue of debt anyway, or the issue of land ownership (exceptions noted, the land reform movement in the broadest sense, which seems to be politically dead at this point, only to live on in minor initiatives), and I don't know any Nation their secular laws having something like a Shmittah on loans for the poor, or an obligation to lend to them if they are in need and you are not (I suppose, this is not a debate on the details of the practice of it, but only on the principle itself, which is part of the Torah). P.S. [Continuing on Usenet.] So, the Rabbis have decided to cancel the Redemption, and block it alltogether. There certainly are Rabbis who say that the problem is Israel and not 'moshiach', and that seems to be how it is. Nevertheless, not one of them seems to react to the need to overthrow Hillel the Elder and Maimonides / Rambam. They do not want to get rid of "their sins", which are now codified as law, by (probably among others) the two aforementioned "sages". "Sins" (criminal activity), as defined by the Torah, has now been elevated to the standing of law, and not just some bylaws of some weird club on the fringes, but by the most supposed "Orthodox", and this has already been going on for thousands of years. If they cannot see such an obvious problem and obvious lie, if they do not want to undo this lying and fraudulent behavior (a combination of heart and mind), or at least admit that this is not the Torah (at least the honesty and mind to see and admit the truth, without necessarily changing it immediately or at all), then I don't see anyone who deserves any better than the crazy mess they are living in already, or who is even capable of living in anything better. Let's say you are dealing with a group of unruly children, who for some reason have the habbit of setting each other on fire with a bunch of lighters. Everything has been attempted to stop them doing it, but even at the best of times, something is burning at least once an hour. Are you going to take these people on an balloon trip, or a long voyage in a wooden boat ? The simple rafts they can put together are all they are worthy to be on, because these rafts are all the way wet and will not burn. If you take them unto a wooden boat, with all the ropes and sails and tar to keep the hull tight, it is probably a matter of time before that ship is reduced to a pile of logs floating on the sea, from which they might bind together a simple raft as they already had. That simple raft will not go far, or if it goes far they all die along the way, but they cannot be put on a boat because they will burn it down sooner or later. That is more or less the situation with the prosbul and the heter iska. While these may not be a huge fire by themselves, the dishonesty and the greed from which the prosbul and the heter iska are made are a small fire which will set a greater fire of Plutocracy down the line, as well as a general sense of not caring about good laws anyway, which is like adding fuel to the fire. Stop with the prosbul. Stop with the heter iska. Ask for-, support and demand the right to free land for all, or just do it if you can. Stop gossiping about other people. Be nice to people, especially good people. Be understanding of the needs of others, as you are of your own. Help and care for other people. Stop worshiping the rich, stop worshiping some useless idols. Care for the truth. If you did that in the current environment, or specifically even because I (undersigned) asked you to, and all you have to do is open your eyes and the Redemption door just opened in front of you. You still have to walk through that door and make it work, but at least you may have a chance in succeeding. If you lack the honesty, brain or care for other people to do things like this, or stand against a majority supporting evil, then if you find ourself in Israel in a Redeemed State, you might be there, but in the role of sand on the machine (so to speak), a small fire waiting to break out in a bigger fire of selfishness, social bickering and chaos, Plutocracy and then a return to the exile - like aforementioned boat breaks apart and becomes a raft no better than they can build themselves. The honesty, the mind, the brains. The caring, the heart, the kindness. These two are lacking. The prosbul is a fraud, says the honest mind. The prosbul is uncaring and an evil upon the poor whose rights and needs are being violated, says the kind heart. We shall break this lie and do better, say the hands of Justice. There is nothing more to say. It is the same thing over and over. It merely is filling up the time, until the next round of punishment, 7 times worse than the Nazi holocaust. Since the Rabbis are guilty of ========== REMAINDER OF ARTICLE TRUNCATED ==========