Path: ...!feed.opticnetworks.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jos Boersema Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish Subject: Israel claims to want to be redeemed ... Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2024 08:44:22 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 484 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2024 10:44:23 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="52deb4a53002bcb9f5e224a74800ebed"; logging-data="1994194"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19mkQXzeRmx5CIPcTpLuGkd" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:cdineFI7NRZQwbMj7vVU21s42MQ= Bytes: 29367 Hello 'Welcome Committee Moshiah', Today I found your website. I feel obligated to write you, not because it will likely serve any use at the moment, but I do not want to be blamed by you or your people later for not giving you a chance to reject what I am proposing and arguing (below and elsewhere), so that the guilt of delaying the possible Redemption will be on you, and not on me. I am sorry if this sounds strange and self serving, or you are already tired of another "moshiach claimant". That is fine, you can put this message in the spam immediately. I expect nothing, but I need to have tried, that is all (for given reason). Just delete this message and save ourselves the trouble. You don't care anyway, right ? It's all just a shell game. You have been programmed to wait for "moshiach', and that's just one of the hollow and meaningless rituals left over from the past, and that's all. Have a great day, good bye. ;-) It means nothing to me if you think what I propose is not true. Save yourself the trouble and do not even bother a reply if you don't agree. First things first: Hillel the Elder legislated the prosbul, which pretends to cancel the 7th year debt cancellation in the Torah. This is treason. Hillel may have tipped the scales with it, and caused the exile. If you worship Hillel as Rabbis worship Rambam, just delete this e-mail now. You can just call me an anti-semite in your mind if you like, all good. IF you lack the courage and determination to overthrow the prosbul and overthrow a similar device created by Rambam/Maimonides called the "heter iska", I don't see how you can be Redeemed. Rather, the curses section in the Torah must come true again. 7 times worse than the Nazis. I speculate 95% of all of you will die. There may still be a number of years before this happens, so perhaps you can still do somethnig about it. Repent from the prosbul and the heter iska, repent from having listened to traitors such as Hillel the Elder (a mirror image of Jeebus the Bastard, the western idol), and repent from the heter iska and Rambam / Maimonides. Other treasons are: the Lamp of Helena, this is Sun disk idolatry. It is quite possible that not the prosbul, but the Sun disk idol, was the breaking point which destroyed the 2nd Temple. I don't know, you'd have to ask Hashem. How Serious this is, you can see in the so-called Temple Institute, who remade the idol and wishes to put it on a 3rd Temple. They want to dedicate the 3rd Temple to the Sun. Nobody in their right mind needs to hear the babble around it, as why it wasn't idolatry. The device reflected the sun, right from the inner building its gate. Case closed. I suspect the Jewish people at the time where angry with HKB'H for causing a famine, and when this Queen Helena brought some fruits to relief the suffering, they decided to break with HKB'H and irritate him with an idol on the 2nd Temple. Not long after, the current exile began. So, in my view, now you know why you are in exile. If you lack the courage to overthrow these treasons because you "want to fit in" or whatever else such as a will to serve the rich and greedy above HKB'H, the truth, the peace and justice, then now you know that you belong in the exile. You create the exile around you. If you where to be put in a Redeemed Israel, you would recreate the exile around you, by way of stupidity (idolatry is stupidity, in my view), and greed (Hillel the Elder and Rambam teach greed and law breaking). I think this is why the Jewish people have been cursed by the Jeebus the Bastard religion from the west, because this Jeebus is a mirror for Hillel the ELder (the traitor). "Oh he is so friendly", but he was also lawless and law breaking, law overthrowing. Just like Jeebus, crazy like Jeebus. HKB'H helped you in this way, so that you would learn a hatred for this idol and his lies, and perhaps you would understand that it is really Hillel the Elder and later Rambam / Maimonides, who are the same. -----------------o----------------- If you still read this, and agree with me: please accept my apologies for writing a strange and seemingly rude e-mail. I have been going at these topics since about 2008 or so. It gets frustrating, to deal with the fraudulent aspects of Rabbinical Judaism, the failure to respond by this people, and their refusal to correct themselves no matter how obvious it is made to them. I also propose this, which is my website: http://market.socialism.nl Even if you don't agree with this right now, I appreciate it if you downloaded it. It is all free. You never know, this might be it ? I also do not know for a certainty, but I doubt things like this: why would HKB'H hurt someone like I have been hurt, and how many people really need to write down a program like this in the world ? You only need one to do it. There is a lot more than just that thought, but there is a problem. I don't agree with the 'moshiach' game. I feel it is cheating. You need to want to be good and true on your own. Use your head, it is not that difficult. How should an economy function (my topic of interest is economics and war, because I feel poverty and war are the main causes of unnecessary suffering in the world). If you think about things, or even go to a decent University, it shouldn't take you long to realize the land cannot be sold in perpetuity, but must be a right to all. Hence: the Torah of Moshe Rabbeinu is TRUE. The Torah is science. the Torah is great. This is how you should operate. This is how we move forward, and deserve to have the power of this ever improving technology all around us. Throwing stones became spears became intercontinental missiles with dozens of nuclear bombs on them. This is a very serious issue. Humanity needs to start behaving, or destroy themselves. Part of behaving as a decent species: figure it out. Figure out how an economy should work, and do it. Instead what we see: idolatry to Hillel the Elder, Rambam and just mindless activities which serve an ever smaller clique of psychos with all the money in the world. If you do not want to use your heads on the topics themselves, that's fine. Just suffer the coming periods of wars and Tyrannies, hello on Earth, and hope that at the end of it there will still be a few humans left to dig around for roots and able to make a basic fire, before we all die out. It's not that serious ? I think it could be a lot worse: the psychos of power want an ever lasting Tyranny, in which they control the slaves with great technological powers. It looks like they can actually do it, thanks to the stupidity of mankind. At that point, total annihilation might be what the people ask for. By figuring it out with your head, you proof that you care. By not figuring it out with your head, you proof that you do not care. See the point ? This is why I have problems with this 'moshiach' game. It is like cheating. It is like giving solutions to people who fail to focus on the problems, and deal with them head on. You want tricks, you want miracles, and then someone will figure it all out for you, and that should somehow be good enough. Then again: who am I to make decisions on this Earth, and who am I to argue the Torah of Moshe Rabbeinu, a book that is so great. If this is what heaven wants with the Jewish people, then so be it. Run the game, run the cheat sheet as it where, and see how it goes. You should know though, that I propose my program purely rationally. You should think about the program, and try to understand it. That which you both understand and agree to, only that you should do. Anything else, you should not do. First think and study. I suggest to be careful, if not very very, very careful. I don't know how much time there still is to do careful thinking, but well, since 2012 (when I basically finalized my program), already another 12 years had passed, another 12 years wasted. You could have used those years to think about a few things. Perhaps this will be the fix to the fix: if the Prophets point to this proposal, which you could then do without thinking and thus avoiding to meet the challenge of this world, but it is part of the proposal to very carefully think about it and only do what you comprehend / agree with, then maybe it can all still work out in the end. ------------------o---------------- This brings us to the issue of 'moshiach', and I found it funny how many things you wrote which match me as a person. Now you probably think "here we go again, anoher nutcase thinks he is moshiach", but I hope you can also appreciate how things look from the other side. I also think: "here we go again, mindless Jews who are lost in their idolatry to their fake Sages, who don't even care one way or the other, not for the Torah, not for what is a reasonable political/economic proposal". Sorry if you sense some of my frustration over the years. To dispel the obvious charge: in the system is given a system of State, which includes a King Elect. You can elect your House of David there, and give this individual a palace to live in, etc. I am not electable to that position, thanks. I do not need your palace, and I do not need your money either, and I also don't need your subservience either. I look for honest people who want to live, who don't bow their heads to anyone and certainly also not to me. I don't need it, I don't want it, in fact I despise it. I'm just another guy, who happens to have had a lot of time, perhaps a little too much, to do some thinking, and that's all. I can list reasons why I seem to match the story in the Tanach about 'moshiach', because I read it and I thought: they describe my life here, and what I want to do also. I was working on the project (see website, the Constitution and all that), and I decided to check up on what the enemies are doing, who want Tyranny and hell on Earth, the criminals basically, hence I bought a Jesus bible book and a Quaran, because I feared they where going to interfere with the program and bring out their Tyrant and start killing everyone. Best be prepared, right ? Well, after I sipped through those books a bit to get an idea, I bought a Tanach. I was very impressed by it, and I knew it had a true and good economy (my project is essentially about the economy). I was very happy to have found such a great people: Israel. I even thought of converting. I wanted to buy a Talmud, but I was scammed and the books never came. I bought a Shulchan Aruch, and then I was shocked, because I discovered your lies: prosbul, heter iska. Now I knew that you had betrayed the Torah. Since then I try to get you - Israel - to stop lying about the Torah, and do Teshuvah, return to your Torah. You simply don't care. In any case, while reading I noticed that it was more or less describing my life, when talking about this thing which is supposed to happen, although it is quite cryptic. ========== REMAINDER OF ARTICLE TRUNCATED ==========