Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Cryptoengineer Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: (Tears) Beyond Rejection (Beyond, volume 1) by Justin Leiber Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2024 19:54:26 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 35 Message-ID: References: <86bk7050zj.fsf@building-m.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2024 23:54:27 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="8a37abffa008efde9824de9a7639a102"; logging-data="3305506"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19ZgP/cRpY6+ZanQ0sYrThrCLFocqoI4xo=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:3UtVgo0xWYBMQqfdQ3l6jSZl7G0= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2826 On 3/27/2024 12:15 PM, Paul S Person wrote: > On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 17:58:24 +0000, John > wrote: > >> Jerry Brown writes: >> >>> There's also the non-fiction "Tramp Royale" in which RAH pioneers the >>> slightly snarky travel book decades before the likes of Bill Bryson >>> and his successors. >> >> I guess you could say he pioneered the slightly snarky travel book, but >> only because Mark Twain pioneered the *extremely* snarky travel book in >> the previous century. >> >> The title "Tramp Royale" may even be a wink to "A Tramp Abroad" >> >>> I could have done without the final chapter in which he advises the >>> reader that they might as well travel the USA as its sights are better >>> than anything the rest of the world could offer. >> >> A deeply Heinlein attitude, although I agree that some Americans have a >> weird tendency to not view it as a "real" vacation unless an ocean was >> crossed. > > I came to the conclusion that "visiting the relatives" and "real > vacation" were not the same thing (except, of course, in my family) -- > but I didn't think you had to cross an ocean to have a real vacation. I've long used the term 'oblication' to describe the trips you Must Take even if you'd rather go somewhere new. I've been to Silicon Valley to visit my mother more times than I can remember, and my wife and I have pretty well run out of sites to visit. pt