Path: ...!feed.opticnetworks.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Don Y Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: British (european?) kitchen counter electric outlets Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2024 15:02:28 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 23 Message-ID: References: <1quvk5k.dbn40q1ggrom8N%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2024 00:02:35 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="9476ebbeb01ffc2612a1eef760f02e65"; logging-data="2295840"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/CltUSpKQPIlTnYUfn2gSd" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:RxvGfFpFL82+1ZBBBRXCSLnDF6k= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2576 On 6/19/2024 1:38 PM, KevinJ93 wrote: > On 6/19/24 9:07 AM, Don Y wrote: >> On 6/19/2024 1:42 AM, Martin Brown wrote: > <...> >> >> Here, you can add a stub diverging from an existing box; there's no need >> to preserve this "ring".  In your case, it seems like you would have to >> literally insert the box *into* the ring (?) >> > > They are called spurs in UK and are allowed with restrictions. > > https://www.electricalsafetyfirst.org.uk/guidance/your-questions-answered/questions/how-many-spurs-can-i-have-on-a-ring-main/ But, how do you *access* the wire to do so? Possibly you can gain access INSIDE a box. But, now you have to get your "stub" wire out of the box and into the "cavity" and, eventually, over to its destination. Here, we can open walls with a "plunge saw" (drywall saw) -- to any level of exposure deemed necessary. Then, slip a new piece of drywall (cut to that size/shape) in its place and patch.