Path: ...!feed.opticnetworks.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Dimiter_Popoff Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Chinese semiconductors Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2024 18:01:58 +0300 Organization: TGI Lines: 123 Message-ID: References: <81l57j17n3u1o76dkoirjjulpo76291cf6@4ax.com> <9jl57jl75daa4rull8cpc0ung6hvbtkl5s@4ax.com> <3qg67jpedsrertumhhg9oeea2n61ac1ct8@4ax.com> <9pl67j1gbaii3jf90g498iqi2bpgbc7ih2@4ax.com> Reply-To: dp@tgi-sci.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2024 17:01:59 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="976114f6fe67ac6e29882b89b79bf4de"; logging-data="3387060"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+q4INtm8a8hRXTfqlBc7k7" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:4tFYBw+noHh3ehKGCI8I3W/rvKM= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 6473 On 6/20/2024 1:20, Cursitor Doom wrote: > On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 15:10:51 -0700, john larkin wrote: > >> On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 21:41:20 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom >> wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 13:47:25 -0700, john larkin wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 17:49:28 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 07:48:46 -0700, john larkin wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 14:35:28 GMT, Jan Panteltje >>>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On a sunny day (Wed, 19 Jun 2024 06:18:42 -0700) it happened john >>>>>>> larkin wrote in >>>>>>> <9jl57jl75daa4rull8cpc0ung6hvbtkl5s@4ax.com>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 08:53:34 -0400, legg >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 Jun 2024 13:00:23 -0700, john larkin >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/major-chinese- >>>>> semiconductor-company-goes-bankrupt-23-others-recently-withdrew-ipo-ap >>>>>>>>>> plications >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Good grief. Crazy numbers. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 10,000 bankruptcies representing only 1 in 5 start-ups for the >>>>>>>>> year. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sounds like a normal ratio. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> RL >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The idea of any country "registering" 50,000 semiconductor >>>>>>>> companies in one year is absurd. It's the same corrupt fad >>>>>>>> dynamics as the Chinese real-estate scam. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Communism always becomes savage and corrupt and inefficient. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I do not see it that way. >>>>>>> Making crap and selling it at taxpayers cost is typical US Boing >>>>>>> Starliner leaking Helium and has their astronuts stuck in space, >>>>>>> ... Boing airplanes that fsll apart and killed hundreds. >>>>>> >>>>>> Airbus planes have killed people too. >>>>>> >>>>>> The two nasty 737 crashes were a combination of bad control system >>>>>> desgn and bad piloting, not things falling apart. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> other dangerous products such as vaccins against virusses produced >>>>>>> by the same US, >>>>>>> worshipping criminals againt humanity like DRRRRR FAUlty it suffers >>>>>> >from a milli-tary industrial complex that makes crap noisy shit >>>>>>> airplanes that pollute the skies here: F35, an ever raising debt, >>>>>>> more than a third world country, >>>>>>> a basically 2 party sustem that gives people the worst of both,... >>>>>>> A war mongering bunch killing people all over the world Totally >>>>>>> corrupt from top to bottom and proud of it. >>>>>>> An IQ that gete lower and lower... >>>>>>> dolly no longer coupled to gold value, just shit paper. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It's really the wrong environment for inventing and developing >>>>>>>> electronics. >>>>>>>> The US has lots of started-small innovative tech companies, some of >>>>>>>> which are world-dominant now. I see a some of that in the UK and >>>>>>>> Ireland and a bit in France and the Netherlands. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The sequence matters. Some outfits start with ideas and eventually >>>>>>>> make a lot of money. Some start with a heap of invested money, have >>>>>>>> no original ideas, and fail. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The sequence is that the US empire will soon cease to exist. >>>>>>> West coast was always part of China :-) >>>>>>> More info in 'planets of the apes' >>>>>>> >>>>>>> US hates it own people, puts sanctions on cheap good Chinese >>>>>>> products and increases taxes so its war mongering industry has jobs, >>>>>>> better just give them the money they steal from the taxpayers >>>>>>> directly... Even better have them make products that benefit people. >>>>>>> That will save lives worldwide covid makers!! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> US just an other ant-heap in decline, fire ants at that... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Darwin applies, bye bye US, byethen [buythen] and club, >>>>>>> Get the fuck out of Europe war mongering shitheads!! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> How are your Russian lessons coming along? >>>>> >>>>> Jan is right about the propensity of the US to go into unnecessary and >>>>> unjustifiable conflicts around the world, though. >>>> >>>> We should have stayed out of WWI and WWII. The history of europe is >>>> millenia of warfare. We should stay out of the current one too. >>> >>> +1. >>> This is what Trump is arguing for and I believe an awful lot of people >>> will find it *very* persuasive. >> >> I wonder what the world would be like today if Germany and Italy and >> Japan had won. > > Globalist-free. Exactly. With all the add-on benefits which come with that, like concentration camps, everyone obediently waiting in line for anything until the approval of some official - oh, and for those who dare to stray a little there are always the gas chambers. A good starting point for all the flat-earthers who invariably are attracted to criminals like Putin, fatboy Kim etc. is to comprehend the fact that the Earth *is a globe*.