Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: moviePig Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: Criminal Records Expunged for St. Louis Gun Couple Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2024 18:07:56 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 48 Message-ID: References: <4enc7jp80vbphg0hc5iociurasnko1obk0@4ax.com> <1749131363.740783714.871879.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com> Reply-To: nobody@nowhere.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2024 00:07:57 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="9ba2c2d3ce561632f359d9cd1548a403"; logging-data="4161151"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+67wvPXv1OcOSl0IYQu/mjue4mQ7dxw/U=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:Y7946z0mJoVTdTMrBKq1Z9o6mAs= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <1749131363.740783714.871879.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com> Bytes: 3664 On 6/22/2024 5:32 PM, anim8rfsk wrote: > moviePig wrote: >> On 6/22/2024 1:20 AM, The Horny Goat wrote: >>> On Fri, 21 Jun 2024 23:13:14 -0400, moviePig >>> wrote: >>> >>>>> But we don't care about the law as written, remember? It's only the >>>>> spirit we should be concerned with. And the spirit of private property >>>>> laws certainly does allow for warning off mobs of people in the middle >>>>> of nationwide violent riots from trespassing on your land and doing you >>>>> harm. >>>> >>>> Even if that were (absurdly) the "spirit" of private property, there are >>>> other laws, including common-sense ones, whose "spirit" figures in, too. >>> >>> Nevertheless there are few cases in law where a warning to the bad >>> guys is required. One of the key points in the Bouchie case was that >>> in was on a farm a minimum of 1/2 hour from the nearest police station >>> and where 4 drunken people came onto his farm, one attempting to get >>> into the farmer's locked truck. >>> >>> In such situations (particularly with no immediate expectation of >>> police attendance) I'm going to err on the side of the homeowner - and >>> I wouldn't impose any further burden on the homeowner because he had >>> reason to believe one or more of the 4 people in their truck was >>> inebriated or of a different ethnicity. >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Colten_Boushie >>> >>> This particular verdict got roughly the same reaction as the OJ >>> Simpson case but on a smaller scale and I guarantee Rhino would >>> remember it. >> >> Here's an instructive (but fictional) example: >> >> The trespasser steps off the sidewalk and sits down on your lawn. >> >> You brandish your gun, saying, "Get off my lawn or I'll shoot." >> >> He yawns and remains seated. >> >> Comic-book fantasies aside, what do you do? > > Turn on the sprinklers. He'll sue you, with fearsome references to 'waterboarding'.