Path: ...!news.nobody.at!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: The Last Doctor Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho,uk.media.tv.sf.drwho Subject: Re: Doctor Who: RTD in the Radio Times. Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2024 11:27:51 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 60 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2024 13:27:51 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="44382278dfd72741606c4e15d5a7f24f"; logging-data="681200"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19O9hzBz8urfxVbpT6UWYjb" User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPhone/iPod Touch) Cancel-Lock: sha1:CQfzr9y94+umzmaVIxTUHlXhQyM= sha1:AKypltED28P/RKQDSvLf9h22VNQ= Bytes: 4373 Daniel70 wrote: > Hornplayer9599 wrote on 17/6/24 9:38 am: >> On 6/16/2024 16:21, Blueshirt wrote: >> >>>> We have a figure of 40,000 total viewers for the first 2 episodes >>>> on Disney+ from Doomcock and unless Disney+ publishes figures >>>> which contradict that then Doomcock must be accepted as the most >>>> accurate figure available. >> >> Okay, George, let's take Doomcock's figures at face value...even >> though he himself said that they were unverifiable, and hasn't >> mentioned them since (he's only dealt with the UK numbers since...and >> as you know, those /are/ verified). > > I don't know what happens now but, back in the Day, Some small portion > of the population (maybe 0.1%) would actually be surveyed as to what > they watched on their T.V.'s, how many in the Household watched, the > economic standing of household members, etc, and these numbers were > multiplied up to give 'population' numbers. > > Is this still, effectively, what happens in Britain and Ireland?? > > If so, I could understand why it might take sooooo long for Disney to > come up with a number for the rest of the world. BARB use a compound system - a sample of 7,000 households (about 16,000 people) is taken who use a special remote to say when they enter or leave a TV enabled room. In those rooms is a box that continuously samples the TV audio and matches it every night to determine what live TV and “recorded on my box” programmes were being watched, by whom, and for how long. A separate box is coupled to the wi-fi router to capture what subscription and SVOD services are being accessed and when, also matched to TV audio and the viewer counter. The number of households has increased down the years as overall viewing numbers have reduced and distribution across an ever increasing number of channels has diluted the totals so to ensure that statistical accuracy is maintained, the sample size has had to increase. Those figures are extrapolated to give the U.K. total viewing figures using standard statistical methods. 0.025% of the population is deemed sufficient for this (7,000 out of 28m households). BARB also take a survey every week of 1,000 random households to update the panel requirements to ensure the right demographic and household balance is maintained across the 10 categories of household (Couple with no children, with 1-2 dependent children, one person household - 65 or over and under 65, lone parent with dependent children, couple with non-dependent children only, lone parent with non-dependent children only, couple with 3 or more dependent children, two or more unrelated adults, multi-family household) and their social categories and viewing habits. They also capture big data from all streaming providers to get a pattern of SVOD viewing that they compare to their panel results for reasonableness - but they don’t use the big data figures directly because they measure by device, not viewers. -- “Most of the Universe is knackered, babes.” - The Doctor