Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jos Boersema Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish Subject: Some Jewish people are trying to set up a new Sanhedrin ... Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2024 16:08:11 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 105 Message-ID: Injection-Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2024 18:08:11 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="9656e58f88e8df099e9e0782b26ba244"; logging-data="145335"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+CLLYIz0dyjilWv9lDXER5" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:L8j2szXeniGXLUt6XCuU+re5J2I= Bytes: 7347 link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eRywTaxzQk title: Could this be the last thing to bring the Moshiach?! source: Navigating Chabad with Levi ome Jewish people are trying to set up a new Sanhedrin, so I ask them if they are going to correct the *prosbul* (a crime committed by the last Sanhedrin under Hillel the Elder, FWIK) ... Is the new Sanhedrin going to legislate that the _prosbul_ is (again) illegal, and also nullify the _heter iska_ ? If not, I fear you will fail again and get "knocked down" again, because the curses of the Torah will still be effective, for not doing Teshuvah (or not correctly, if you will). I think on the topic of _no churches in Eretz Yisroel_ (I couldn't agree more), I think you first need to remove the church from yourself, because you have placed Hillel the Elder with his _prosbul_ above the Torah and above HKB'H. Hillel the Elder is a model for Jeebus the Bastard from Rome (western idol), it is a mirror for your Hillel the Elder. If you do not take away Hillel the Elder from your own beliefs, heaven has the right or even duty to curse you for breaking the Torah, and a good way to do that is to say to you: _you Israel, are acting as if Jeebus the Bastard is your 'messiah'._ It is a curse, and an accusation. Take the reason for the accusation away, and the curse should evaporate into nothingness. Do the gentiles have any real power ? Aren't their minds like smoke blowing in the wind ? Also, you put a sun reflector on the inner building its gate, called the Lamp of Helena (Queen), and then when it reflected the Sun in the morning, you prayed to it. Rambam/Maimonides made up the _heter iska_ and this is again unacceptable under the Torah. Do you wish me to explain it directly ? The prosbul destroys the 7th year debt cancellation, and pretends that it is beautiful to do that, so that the rich will lend again to the poor. This is backwards. If the rich do not lend to the poor because of the fear of the Shmittah, they are breaking the law and need court cases against them. In the worst case you can think of banishment of the offending parties, who refuse to lend and then nullify the loan. The _heter iska_ allows profit on loans, with all kinds of weird rituals around it, but at the end of the day: you get money for lending money from another Jewish person, and that was not allowed. It also seals away this money, which apparently is in excess or otherwise this person would not put it to risk with someone else, but _money in excess_ is a source for easy loans to the poor, as well as charity, and other good causes for this money. It is not allowed in the Torah law. You broke the law, and caused your own exile, sorry. HKB'H is right to knock you down when you try to resurect a Nation, but not a Nation of Torah, because if you set up a Nation without the Torah, it will want to destroy the Torah. Who else is going to do your job, who else will teach humanity peace, when you are gone ?! The Swiss ? Brazil ? China ? The Eskimos ? Zulu land ? You gave the land for free to all, held the Jubilee on land, you gave loans to the poor and forgave them to your brother, who is there like Israel, who records its own misdeeds and calls them "holy texts" ? Who keeps a law like the Torah on the books, writing and copying faithfully the letters with a precision ? Who has suffered like you, but is still alive. You have to be the Lamp to the Nations, show the example. You have to overthrow your internal Plutocracy (rule by the rich), return to HKB'H and his Torah, distribute the land to all and keep it so, no lands for _sale in perpuity._ The Nazi punishment upon Israel was severe, but remember that it will get 7 times worse, when you do not learn your lesson. Please stop being so idolatrous towards some Rabbis, are they at least authenticated Prophets such as Isaiah ? No ! That doesn't mean they are bad people, but they didn't overturn the prosbul, and that is a big problem ! The Torah says: it is not in heaven, you do not have to go over the sea, but it is in your heart and you know it. Did Moshe Rabbeinu follow a Rabbi, when he sacrificed it all (his life in Egypt) for Justice ? He (presumably) did it (kill those guards), because he knew that to be right. Abraham also left his family, after destroying the idols, right ? They see lies and injustice, and they act. They don't get on the phone with a "Rebbe" or study 500 books first, and then still don't do anything. Their acts _become_ the books ! You do not have to be a genius, to know the prosbul is a lie. Isn't your God "holy", didn't you already behave not good enough to the point he saw that he needed to wipe you all out, except for Moshe Rabbeinu ? You need to be like Moshe Rabbeinu. The way all this is going, it looks like the curses will become effective again: 7 times worse than the Nazis. I do not comprehend, from a very basic and simple minded perspective, why you have the *guts* really, to allow the _prosbul_ to be on the books (see Shulchan Aruch, chapters 180 and 66, if I recall; yes I have that book here, this is how I discovered at least on economics where you have overthrown the Torah and becames servants of the rich & greedy). I don't understand the dishonesty and the mindlessness. It's not really a discussion. You comply or you lie, it is that simple, isn't it. HKB'H has punished you, and he had to do that. You caused it yourselves. See the opportunity then: overturn thousands of years of law breaking, set up your Sanhedrin, return to HKB'H, and who knows how easy he will make it for you to get rid of the churches. Perhaps He will not but make it a challenge, but a challenge you can win, because you purified yourselves. Worship of Rebbes is _idolatry._ Only HKB'H is your God, and not even Kings of Israel may be worshiped. None is there besides HKB'H, _none._ He told you: keep the Torah, a _written_ law, not an oral law, a _written_ law. Don't let another terrible event hurt you, before you bow your head to your God, please, for your own sakes. By the time you realize how serious this all may end up being, it could be too late. Sorry to go on about it. Time is running out it seems. *You have been warned, and shown a way out.* Have a great day. -- Economic & political ideology, worked out into Constitutional models, with a multi-facetted implementation plan. http://market.socialism.nl