Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2024 04:11:55 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Criminal Records Expunged for St. Louis Gun Couple Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv References: <4enc7jp80vbphg0hc5iociurasnko1obk0@4ax.com> Content-Language: en-US From: trotsky In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 102 Path: ...!news.misty.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder.usenetexpress.com!tr2.iad1.usenetexpress.com!news.newsdemon.com!not-for-mail Nntp-Posting-Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2024 09:11:55 +0000 X-Received-Bytes: 5674 Organization: NewsDemon - www.newsdemon.com X-Complaints-To: abuse@newsdemon.com Message-Id: <17dc82edc8a294f6$167533$916931$50d51a61@news.newsdemon.com> Bytes: 6070 On 6/25/24 10:13 PM, BTR1701 wrote: > In article , > moviePig wrote: > >> On 6/25/2024 6:52 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>> In article , >>> moviePig wrote: >>> >>>> On 6/25/2024 3:52 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>>>> In article , >>>>> moviePig wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 6/22/2024 1:20 AM, The Horny Goat wrote: >>>>>>> On Fri, 21 Jun 2024 23:13:14 -0400, moviePig >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> But we don't care about the law as written, remember? It's only the >>>>>>>>> spirit we should be concerned with. And the spirit of private >>>>>>>>> property laws certainly does allow for warning off mobs of people >>>>>>>>> in the middle of nationwide violent riots from trespassing on your >>>>>>>>> land and doing you harm. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Even if that were (absurdly) the "spirit" of private property, there >>>>>>>> are other laws, including common-sense ones, whose "spirit" figures >>>>>>>> in, too. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nevertheless there are few cases in law where a warning to the bad >>>>>>> guys is required. One of the key points in the Bouchie case was that >>>>>>> in was on a farm a minimum of 1/2 hour from the nearest police station >>>>>>> and where 4 drunken people came onto his farm, one attempting to get >>>>>>> into the farmer's locked truck. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In such situations (particularly with no immediate expectation of >>>>>>> police attendance) I'm going to err on the side of the homeowner - and >>>>>>> I wouldn't impose any further burden on the homeowner because he had >>>>>>> reason to believe one or more of the 4 people in their truck was >>>>>>> inebriated or of a different ethnicity. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Colten_Boushie >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This particular verdict got roughly the same reaction as the OJ >>>>>>> Simpson case but on a smaller scale and I guarantee Rhino would >>>>>>> remember it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Here's an instructive (but fictional) example: >>>>>> >>>>>> The trespasser steps off the sidewalk and sits down on your lawn. >>>>>> >>>>>> You brandish your gun, saying, "Get off my lawn or I'll shoot." >>>>>> >>>>>> He yawns and remains seated. >>>>>> >>>>>> Comic-book fantasies aside, what do you do? >>>>> >>>>> That's why you don't threaten deadly force unless you're willing to use >>>>> it. >>>>> >>>>> However that's a separate issue from whether just holding a gun as a >>>>> screaming unruly mob-- which is already trespassing by its mere >>>>> presence-- marches up the street toward you in the middle of a >>>>> nationwide paroxysm of violence to which the police seem unwilling or >>>>> unable to stand in opposition is, or ought to be, a criminal act. >>>> >>>> In the circumstances you yourself paint, there's obviously no such thing >>>> as "*JUST* holding a gun". >> >>> Were the rooftop Koreans during the Rodney King riots criminals? >> >> I don't remember what you're talking about ...but possibly they were >> threatening deadly force. > > Google it. > > Theirs were among the only stores in those neighborhoods not looted > and/or burned, so apparently whatever they were threatening, it was > justified. Amazing. You fucked up the facts in evidence here too. You are a ridiculously stupid fuck up buddy. From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Roof Koreans Rooftop Koreans or Roof Koreans refer to the Korean American business owners and residents during the 1992 Los Angeles riots who armed themselves and took to the rooftops of local businesses to defend themselves. The unrest in urban areas was sparked by the acquittal of four Los Angeles Police Department officers in the beating of Rodney King and resulted in rioting, and looting, along with widespread violence and arson throughout the city.[1][2] Background For years, there had been tensions between the Los Angeles Korean community and the African American communities, including the killing of Latasha Harlins, an African-American teenager who was controversially fatally shot by a Korean-American convenience store owner who received no jail time.[3] Define "justified." You're a white supremacist so to you lawlessness and murder are "justified."