Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: joes Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic Subject: Re: D correctly simulated by H proved for THREE YEARS --- rewritten Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2024 17:19:25 -0000 (UTC) Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2024 17:19:25 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="4086623"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="nS1KMHaUuWOnF/ukOJzx6Ssd8y16q9UPs1GZ+I3D0CM"; User-Agent: Pan/0.145 (Duplicitous mercenary valetism; d7e168a git.gnome.org/pan2) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 3186 Lines: 32 Am Thu, 13 Jun 2024 08:37:29 -0500 schrieb olcott: > On 6/13/2024 6:31 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >> On 6/13/24 12:06 AM, olcott wrote: >>> On 6/12/2024 10:49 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>> On 6/12/24 11:26 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>> On 6/12/2024 10:08 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>> On 6/12/24 10:48 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>> On 6/12/2024 9:37 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>> On 6/12/24 10:25 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 6/12/2024 9:16 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 6/12/24 9:50 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 6/12/2024 8:36 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/12/24 9:27 PM, olcott wrote: > The input to H(D,D) does not provide the means for H to determine the > behavior of D(D). Oh, sure it does. All the info is right there! Just add simulation! You do know how that works, right? > I keep asking you to show all of the steps of how H(D,D) determines the > behavior of D(D) from its input and you dodge because you know that I am > correct. You are correct: your H does not determine the behaviour of D(D). Why does it arbitrarily decide to halt instead of continuing the simulation? > H(D,D) is not told about the behavior of D(D) and you cannot show > otherwise with any sequence of steps of correct reasoning. H is told about D and can simulate what it does. That's why we're looking for a machine that finds that out for every machine. -- joes