Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Don Y Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: British (european?) kitchen counter electric outlets Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2024 10:59:21 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2024 19:59:25 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="21e9219a70912c50d1c590dbb3d1ae51"; logging-data="911448"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+T6aWJqXW4tL8NXT+i6XvH" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:PXcZZ7VEWQRR+ypVUoRq0VZIbyQ= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2330 On 6/17/2024 7:57 AM, Martin Brown wrote: > Incandescent bulbs were really dim on that low voltage (I still have one or two > in seldom used locations). We've intentionally kept incandescent bulbs in some of the larger living areas. We use "commercial" (130V) rated bulbs at the next higher wattage (e.g., 75W for 60W) to get comparable light output. But, the big advantage is getting really *low* light levels via dimmers. This just isn't possible with LED lights (even "dimmable" and with "LED dimmers"). (We can, for example, turn the lighting throughout the house down to its absolute minimum and you'd not realize the lights were *on* until it was pitch black in the house; then, everything would be very dimly lit -- great when we have guests over and don't want them to trip over things or miss the step *down* into the living room, etc.)