Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jeroen Belleman Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: how the laser happened Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2024 23:20:55 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 54 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2024 23:18:33 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="fd8e8572526367a64168c906c9e49ff1"; logging-data="1830045"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19UtfkSpD3TKulnBONZrW75" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.13.0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:Lct7LYKCHuFaz/5AmyeqBOKJld8= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3244 On 6/25/24 22:46, Phil Hobbs wrote: > Jeroen Belleman wrote: >> On 6/25/24 12:50, Martin Brown wrote: >>> On 21/06/2024 14:05, john larkin wrote: >>>> There was a thread somewhere above about photon wave/particle duality. >>>> >>>> >>>> This is worth reading: >>>> >>>> https://www.amazon.com/How-Laser-Happened-Adventures-Scientist/dp/0195153766 >>>> >>>> Einstein, in one of his fits of genius, predicted in around 1916 that >>>> under the right conditions, a photon could pass by an excited atom and >>>> the atom would kick in another photon, or add to the wave amplitude, >>>> depending on how you feel about these things. He called it stimulated >>>> emission. He also declared that the laws of thermodynamics made this >>>> effect impossible to use in practical situations. >>>> >>>> In 1951, Charles Townes invented a work-around trick and built the >>>> maser, a gaseous microwave oscillator. His superiors thought he was >>>> crazy to dispute Einstein and almost threw him out of grad school, but >>>> it worked. >>> >>> More interesting still nature beat him to it. >>> >>> The natural source W3(OH) dense molecular cloud which has hydroxyl >>> masers pumped by UV bright young stars embedded in it. >>> >>> Very bright ultra narrow band point sources on a fuzzy nebulous object. >>> >>> https://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu/pdf/1981MNRAS.194P..25S >>> >> [...] >> The idea has been around for a while. Scifi writer Larry Niven >> used it in his Ringworld series of stories. (A ringworld meteorite >> defence system strips bare the hull of a space ship on a collision >> course with the ringworld surface.) >> >> Jeroen Belleman >> > > Of course the Ringworld is dynamically unstable, so it wouldn’t matter that > much if it got hit. ;) > > Cheers > > Phil Hobbs > Yes indeed. Niven invented a plot twist to fix that in "The Ringworld Engineers". Dyson spheres aren't stable either. We're making some headway into making a Dyson swarm though. ;-) Jeroen Belleman