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Failed to connect to MySQL: (1203) User howardkn already has more than 'max_user_connections' active connectionsPath: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic Subject: Re: DDD correctly emulated by H0 --- Why Lie? -- Repeat until Closure Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2024 21:52:44 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 66 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2024 04:52:45 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="422dd2162c45ab1a09b084523bb5ca66"; logging-data="1435386"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+csKsCkLU6Ldx3Z7lHtXY1" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:uC9rACC3WmlKV/7lKc+MnojwlDM= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 4081 On 6/24/2024 9:48 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 6/24/24 10:38 PM, olcott wrote: >> On 6/24/2024 9:26 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 6/24/24 10:21 PM, olcott wrote: >>>> On 6/24/2024 9:02 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>> On 6/24/24 9:55 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> *We can get to that as soon as you reverse your lie* >>>>>> *We can get to that as soon as you reverse your lie* >>>>>> *We can get to that as soon as you reverse your lie* >>>>> >>>>> You still haven't shown where I lied, on where you don't like what >>>>> I say. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> You said that D correctly simulated by H must >>>>>> have the behavior of the directly executed D(D). >>>>> >>>>> Right, the steps that H sees are IDENTIAL to the steps of the >>>>> directly executed D(D) until H stops its simulation, >>>>> >>>>> NOT ONE DIFFERENCE. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Honest mistake or liar? >>>> >>>> The directly executed D(D) has identical behavior to >>>> D correctly simulated by H1 >>>> *the call from D to H(D,D) returns* >>>> >>>> This is not the same behavior as >>>> D correctly simulated by H >>>> *the call from D to H(D,D) DOES NOT return* >>>> >>> >>> And what instruction did H's simulation differ from the direct >>> executions trace? >>> >> >> D correctly simulated by H >> *the call from D to H(D,D) DOES NOT return* > > Which isn't "Behavior of the input" > > The "not happening" of something that could have happened except that > the processing was stoped is NOT behavior. > >> >> D correctly simulated by H1 --- Identical to D(D) >> *the call from D to H(D,D) returns* >> > > Right, and it contains ALL of the behavior of the correct simulation of > D by H, plus more. > > H doesn't see DIFFERENT behavior, just LESS, and that differnce isn't > due to the input, but due to H. These are not the same behaviors *the call from D to H(D,D) CANNOT POSSIBLY return* *the call from D to H(D,D) returns* -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer