Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jos Boersema Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish Subject: "Jeebus is your messiah", 2 Billion people, true ! (not like that) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2024 20:50:40 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 296 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2024 22:50:41 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="70589b8909f92022aac083d0bbdadae5"; logging-data="671976"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18M9oXCOGFXI4dSf63OcH8E" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:WZbEy4/rvkIFhVrZM3z1VmV2aV0= Bytes: 18298 About 2 Billion people or so (western idolators & Moslems) say to the Jewish people: Jeebus the Faker is your Messiah. They are right, if you listen to it with the right ears. Isn't it interesting from a Jewish perspective, which means that Hashem makes everything and does everything, and does everything for the Jewish people in this world, that there came about some 2 Billion people who tell the Jewish people that Jeebus the Faker is their 'Messiah' (Messiah basically means something like King, High Priest or Supreme Judge, it is near the highest office you can have in the Torah, just below being a prophet or of course, Moshe Rabbeinu himself, because the Prophet appoints the anointed one, and I at least would think that the Prophet is therefore above the anointed one, but anyway I digress, sorry ...). There are about 10-15 Million Jewish persons in the world now, many of whom are very far away from the Torah, and many can be even further from the Torah than many gentiles are. If we take: 2 × 10⁹ (2 Billion) / 10 × 10⁶ (10 Million), we get = 200. For every Jew, there are 200 persons who seem to claim that Jeebus is the boss, King, law maker, highest human authority (etc) over the Jewish people. Even if we lower this 2 Billion by 90%, that is still a crazy 20 persons in the world for every Jew who tells them: Jeebus the Faker is your 'Messiah'. Where do these people live ? Right around Eretz Yisroel (land of Israel): the middle east to the South, East and North, and then a large amount of such people to the North-West, which is precisely where many of them (many Jewish people) ended up in the exile. Then we have the Roman Empire, who changed into the Jeebus idolatry religion, etc. These people are all around Israel, all around ! Further away people ? The Indians don't care, they have there several thousand absurd gods religion, and have more than a party or two with them (as well as the bone chilling poverty which comes with all this madness, I guess, such as their cursed caste system). Anyway, the point has been made ;-). Hence the question becomes: why did heaven put this line of text, to be spoken to the Jewish people, during much of this current long exile: 'Jeebus the Faker is your Messiah'. I think the usual way the Jewish people heard this sentence, is in exactly the way the confused gentiles meant it: as if this is supposedly true, but obviously it is not true. Fortunately the Jewish people rightly rejected Jeebus the Faker. It seems you should hear the sentence like so: You - Jewish people - live in such a way, you are so lawless and unkind to each other, that it is as if you have chosen a Faker like Jeebus to be your King, teacher and god, who said horrible things like: I am here to make war in your household, so that all the family members are at odds with each other, and other insane and absurd things this Faker idol from Rome has said. "You live as if Jeebus the Faker is your Messiah!" is (in my view) the correct hearing of the sentence "Jeebus the Faker is your Messiah!" It is like saying exactly the same to some bad person: "The devil is your mother, and Satan is your teacher !". Nobody of course believes that the devil actually is this guy his mother, it is a figure of speech. He lives, his character is such, as if the devil was his mother (Father ? Sorry if I got confused on this.) Now you can brush this off as just stupid, but you can not because this is not merely the raving and ranting of a Usenet lunatic with nothing better to do because the shops are closed and there is no milk chocolate in the house (well there is, but okay ;-). Two Billion people, case closed. All around Israel. Case closed. You have to take note of this seeming crazyness, because your God is the God of all, and everything he does is for you. He is sending you a message ? Obviously, I dare say, obviously ! You say, it is not so ? Stop for a moment, and think of the scale of it all. Think of how many long years, how many generations already, this madness about Jeebus is plaguing you. This is human work ? What does that even mean, in a believe that humans are clay in the hands of your great and awesome God, the Creator of *everything* (including all the crazy idols of India, albeit indirectly perhaps, making humans who made those gods up). How many years already ? Oh, and you brush this off as nothing, interesting. How many people ? For how long ? Oh, right, but you brush this off as nothing ? Where do they all live ? Oh, just around Yerushalayim in a huge circle of thousands and thousands of kilometers, but you think it has no other meaning than being a pest ? There are other reasons though, such as that you where to be sifted through the Nations, and so it makes sense that those who are susceptible to this idolatry around Jeebus, would then be sifted out and this would cleanse Israel. This is a pretty good believe also, but why can't it be both ? If you go by the works of your God, aren't they brilliant ? I would already assume there is not just two, but like a thousand reasons, most of which we might simply not understand yet, but they are there. A thousand, I don't know, a random number, because I don't know, but we ought to assume a level of genius far far above our own best geniusses, very far beyond. This is also in the Tanach (IIRC). So, what does this Jeebus the Faker "tell" his followers ? Basically, lawlessness, but "be kind" - and even though this may not technically be accurate if you read the text (Jeebus was quite the weirdo, including being an instigator of Cannibalism), his followers act this way: lawless kindness. They won't call it lawless, and they sure make up a lot of their own laws. Case in point ! This is what your Hillel the Elder did. Apparently he was friendly, and that's good. What is not so good, is that he made fake law, like the prosbul. You act like Hillel the Faker is your 'messiah', who made laws which now allow you to avoid following the Torah (but it doesn't). You also fail to do the Torah now in Eretz Yisroel, even though you nominally conquered it of sorts. Where is the Jubilee on land ? I thought Jehoshua ben Nun helped set the precedent: when Israel conquers land, the first thing which happens is they divide it to all. Why ? Because they are a good people, and they follow the law of Moshe Rabbeinu. They want justice, happiness and peace for all. Isn't that amazing ? The world will eventually see and understand, and then want to be like them. The whole world will become a paradise, and humans will live many meaningful and wonderful lives here, with many adventures, and it will be all one huge big and amazing creation !!! But ... but, sigh. It didn't happen. Jeebus the Faker is your Messiah. Hillel the Faker is your 'messiah'. You gave up, chose a different King than the one you had (Hashem). Jeebus the Faker is your King. That is not saying that Jeebus the Faker is your King, but it is like an insult, an accusation: you live as if Jeebus the Faker (called "Jesus" by the idolators, Jesus from Nazareth, whatever, better known as Joshke the Bastard and quite rightly so; I agree with this at least (lol)) is your King, like your King is the Devil ! You, Israel, need to *stop* making Joshke the Bastard you King, which is exactly what you did, exactly while thinking you never did. No, you did just that, and 2 Billion people are in place to remind you of it day and night. They aren't close to stopping, either, are they ! It just keeps getting worse sometimes, it seems. Of coures I don't agree with these idolators, because they mean it the wrong way. They are the self admitted followers of Joshke the Bastard, whom they take for being a great person, just like you take Hillel the Faker the liar the traitor the Elder for being a great person, or your Rambam the Faker even for a second Moshe (how dare you). So lost you are, Israel. It looks like only Catastrophe can save the few, the 'remnant' as Isaiah says. You need to be shocked hard, much harder than during the Nazi holocaust, for exactly what the person who reads this days or weeks after I posted it, but did exactly this; NOTHING. This lameness and deafness, this moral laziness, will then be shocked out of the few who will survive it, and the rest ... I am sorry to say, but they will probably die, die by the thousands and the hundreds of thousands. Why have you let it come to this ? Is your hard neck worth it ? Are you happy now, if you read this after all the bloodshed is over ? Are you happy with yourselves, that you have let it come to this ? The whole world, from North to South pole, is like a letter to you Israel. The Nations are letters, heaven is arranging them into words, which you can read century by century, the sentences form. It is a letter to you. The whole world is one big sheet of paper, and Hashem is writing on it, a letter to you. The Nations are nothing more than letters, and all their wars and madness, it is nothing more than the words in a letter to you. It is a love letter, because only such love can move so many people for your benefit. However, the letter contains warnings and advice for you: do this, and do not do that. It is not even merely the usual history from which we can learn, which would be part of the natural order. It goes beyond that, it becomes crystalized into an actual human sentence, which your ears hear as human spoken words, and which has the greatest value for your future if you cared to listen, if you heard the voice of your God through the madness of the humans voicing what they don't understand: Joshke the Bastard is your Messiah, Joshke the Bastard is your Messiah ... Stop listening to joshke the Bastard, the lawless kindness one, and return to your Torah instead. Stop listening to Hillel the Faker, the traitor the liar with his prosbul, return to your 7th year debt nullification as I ordered you in the words of Moshe Rabbeinu. Stop living as if Joshke the Bastard is your Messiah, and make me your God again, your King, so that you will live and *truly* be kind for each other, rather than this kindness of weirdness which is promoted by Joshke the Bastard, including his Cannibalism and his house of war. Joshke the Bastard is your Messiah. Stop & return, so that you will live. It is a cry of love for you, from heaven. Don't you see it ? I know you are more than smart enough to see it. I want to know what else you can discover, in this vein of things. Let me know ! Have a good day. Oy oy oy, how much longer will they play deaf and lame, how much longer ========== REMAINDER OF ARTICLE TRUNCATED ==========