Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: AMuzi Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: What you need to know about the covid vaccines Date: Thu, 9 May 2024 07:17:23 -0500 Organization: Yellow Jersey, Ltd. Lines: 88 Message-ID: References: <87y18jwu7c.fsf@mothra.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 09 May 2024 14:17:23 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="411dfd90fbc99ec90cecf39b66b5f804"; logging-data="694742"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+cj1DDebz3NpcpQUac8FJh" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:iwczs7Hhf1xUAAfH+Fzb++q0Acc= In-Reply-To: <87y18jwu7c.fsf@mothra.home> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 5139 On 5/8/2024 10:16 PM, Radey Shouman wrote: > Frank Krygowski writes: > >> On 5/8/2024 7:26 PM, Tom Kunich wrote: >>> On Wed May 8 14:23:55 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote: >>>> On 5/8/2024 2:15 PM, AMuzi wrote: >>>>> On 5/8/2024 12:52 PM, Tom Kunich wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> This is NOT about bicycles. >>>> >>>> Finally, an accurate statement from Tom! >>>>> No one likes a Cassandra or listens. >>>>> >>>>> Since the effects (unlike say dope or liquor) don't hurt other people, >>>>> what do you care if people drink the government Kool Aid and take the >>>>> government jab? >>>> >>>> Tom would be totally out of his depth in a forum where qualified medical >>>> personnel seriously discuss COVID, vaccines and other technical medical >>>> topics. So instead of trying to post in such a forum, he rants off-topic >>>> in this one. He cares only because he wants attention. >>>> >>>> -- - Frank Krygowski >>> Franki, I am repeating what I stated 4 years ago and what ALL of the >>> complete medical studies over the last two years have VERIFIED. >> >> ALL medical studies have verified _what_, exactly? That some tiny >> percentage of vaccine recipients had some bad reaction? >> >> Side effects are present with almost all pharmaceuticals. Have you >> never read the warnings on things like aspirin, acetaminophen and >> ibuprofen? In fact, some percentage of peanut eaters die from the >> experience. That doesn't mean peanut butter should be illegal, or that >> grocers are trying to kill us. > > Side effects are a detriment that must be rationally balanced with the > benefits. The benefits seem to have been real for older people, but for > babes in arms, young people, or pregnant women the harms, potential or > actual, clearly outweighed any tiny benefits. The decision to try to > force everyone to take the shot was not made using any normal medical > judgement, other considerations took precedence. > >>> My wife got vaccinated and developed cancer almosr immetiately >> >> That's too bad. But what else did your wife ingest, or inhale, or come >> into contact with in the month before - or the many years before - >> that cancer appeared? How do you know those other substances weren't >> the cause? In fact, how do you know that her contact with _you_ didn't >> cause the cancer? >> >>> She was lucky to have gotten only two shots. What about you? >> >> I've always been up to date with those vaccinations and boosters. I >> had one three-day bout of COVID. I fared much better than my younger >> cyclist friend who caught it before there was a vaccine. He spent many >> weeks on a ventilator and was not expected to survive. He did recover, >> and his local newspaper did a cover story on his "miraculous" >> survival, complete with large photo. > > Those ventilators were killers. Seriously, they were not a good idea, > and were not at all good for patients. Initially many medical people > thought the ventilators would save *them* from getting covid, and the > Devil with the patients. > >>> You believe that the government is always correct. >> >> Nope, I never said that. As usual, your claims about my views are your >> own deluded fiction. >> >> However, I think people like you should be on fierce attack against >> whoever was the president when the vaccine came out. You know, the guy >> who bragged about "fast tracking" the vaccine development. >> >> Why aren't you gathering the citizens to march on him and demand he be >> hung? I understand you can find him in a New York courtroom. > > Trump's behavior during the covid panic was not creditable, and his > refusal to recognize or admit any mistakes in it does not reflect well > on him. It's pretty clear that whatever forces put Dr. Birx into her > position were actually calling the shots, and led the president by the > nose. +1 -- Andrew Muzi am@yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971