Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2024 10:38:19 +0000 From: Rin Stowleigh Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic Subject: Re: Civ 7 Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2024 06:38:18 -0400 Message-ID: <2irq6j1mnkqfouorj84rm45d2vv51cc5k3@4ax.com> References: <8nto6j94rd5pjkni2ruudppkpf55g23cdi@4ax.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.0/32.1071 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 36 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-ZQ8obcCVo5hUm/wIS4fTWJGEv70VE0oXkdNa4DrCUW25VOjqFl5wrUiXMFf3cdzKevqEU1EtRbn2rHw!HSEABdCHvyKC87+OkXTeISZxWZDmBos2C6Tyd+0yg89G7QemRqfZZteBBs29jX6HEK81 X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 2793 On Fri, 14 Jun 2024 19:42:32 +0200, Kyonshi wrote: >On 6/14/2024 7:02 PM, Rin Stowleigh wrote: >> On Thu, 13 Jun 2024 15:08:09 +0200, Kyonshi wrote: >> >>> On 6/12/2024 7:21 PM, Rin Stowleigh wrote: >>>> >>>> Real AI (not what most gamers have historically called AI) integrated >>>> into dialog / behavior / relationships with other civilizations is >>>> where the franchise should go next. It's a mistake if that's not done >>>> in Civ 7. And if it's not done, it's only a matter of time before a >>>> competitor gets there first. >>> >>> so far there is no real AI. Just stuff they hype up as AI. >> >> Look up YT vids for a game called BodyCam. It introduces a level of >> immersive visual realism to the tactical shooter genre that to my >> knowledge hasn't been done before, and it supposed came to market via >> a couple of kids (well a 17 year old and a 20 year old). >> >> Someone will do something equally as disruptive to the strategy genre >> utilizing real AI soon, and if the Civ series is caught sleeping, it >> will become irrelevant overnight. > >There still is no real AI Years ago, I realized the juice simply was not worth the squeeze whenever I allowed myself to get baited into pendantic black holes of opinion-presented-as-fact-discussion. But occasionally, it's probably good for the soul to treat myself to an occasional token episode of frivolous time wasting activity? ;) So I'm curious what aspect of the current state of what is colloquially referred to as AI fails to meet your personal definition of "real"?