Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!pasdenom.info!from-devjntp Message-ID: <2DB5P6IpybAncHUWmFdX55lJN7A@jntp> JNTP-Route: news2.nemoweb.net JNTP-DataType: Article Subject: Re: Incorrect mathematical integration References: <9w4qQAYIGHNeJtHg4ZR1m_Ooxo4@jntp> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity JNTP-HashClient: 2fzX5DCvdNEqhVfdXLQpviD6sUQ JNTP-ThreadID: Ptg0buW51I-Cbbzx-mVW15r6pQg JNTP-Uri: http://news2.nemoweb.net/?DataID=2DB5P6IpybAncHUWmFdX55lJN7A@jntp User-Agent: Nemo/0.999a JNTP-OriginServer: news2.nemoweb.net Date: Wed, 24 Jul 24 13:08:26 +0000 Organization: Nemoweb JNTP-Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/126.0.0.0 Safari/537.36 Injection-Info: news2.nemoweb.net; posting-host="e8cbf2474b472b9bb79db3dccb6a856bc1d05409"; logging-data="2024-07-24T13:08:26Z/8962403"; posting-account="4@news2.nemoweb.net"; mail-complaints-to="julien.arlandis@gmail.com" JNTP-ProtocolVersion: 0.21.1 JNTP-Server: PhpNemoServer/0.94.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-JNTP-JsonNewsGateway: 0.96 From: Richard Hachel Bytes: 2553 Lines: 31 Le 24/07/2024 à 14:47, "Paul.B.Andersen" a écrit : > If the proton is passing a point in the ring with the speed v > relative to the point, then the point in the ring is passing > the proton a the speed v relative to the proton. This is the only interesting sentence in your post. The rest is just nonsense or tautology. Indeed, if the proton passes at Vo=0.999991 c (for example) at a point A of the device, then the laws of physics state that point A passes at Vo=0.999991c. If we transpose into real speed Vr, we have: Vr=Vo/sqrt(1-Vo²/c)=235.7c Likewise, this real speed is reciprocal. In the proton frame, it is point A which passes near it at Vr=235.7c. Now what does the global ring look like in the proton frame of reference, and above all what is the trajectory of point A during one revolution? This is a good relativistic physics question. Have fun answering this question... I hope you have a lot of fun. R.H.