Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: tomyee3@gmail.com (ProkaryoticCaspaseHomolog) Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Langevin's paradox again Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2024 15:27:58 +0000 Organization: novaBBS Message-ID: <4cf99065c3315a022607dbb5ba0e2d5f@www.novabbs.com> References: <9oTvw4-YSIPb1dubtdBwcc_MeX8@jntp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="3042244"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="ovbq/l84ala/wLhXSqScU9GOSIzjukMrxJB27Aq7eyg"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Rslight-Posting-User: c1a997029c70f718720f72156b7d7f56416caf7c X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$D7wL7hUlpLtjO1ESCPzNA.CtC6eGNByMCn1FM96RvsKZBFjqwCki6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 2481 Lines: 26 On Thu, 11 Jul 2024 12:56:25 +0000, Richard Hachel wrote: > But I already told you, SR as taught has no chance of being true. NONE. > Because it inevitably contains a paradox (the Langevin paradox in > apparent > speeds). I explained why, but we don't WANT to understand, because that > would call too much into question. It is therefore very little useful to > carry out experiments on what she says, since in any case, it is dead > from > the start by simple theoretical evidence. We must therefore go further, > and see if what I say (and which is infinitely coherent if we master the > concepts) is experimentally true. *** THERE IS NO PARADOX *** In order for there to be a paradox, each twin would have to be in disagreement about how much time passed for the OTHER twin. In actuality, if, during the trip, each twin were capable of transmitting their local time information to the other twin, at the end of the trip, they would be in perfect agreement about how much time had passed for each twin. Their on-board clocks would show different times when reunited, but that is not a paradox. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_relativity#Twin_paradox The writing is at least 95% my words, the figure is mine (adapted from another), and the table is mine (adapted from A.P. French, 1968)