Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!usenet.goja.nl.eu.org!pasdenom.info!from-devjntp Message-ID: JNTP-Route: news2.nemoweb.net JNTP-DataType: Article Subject: Re: Langevin's paradox again References: <9oTvw4-YSIPb1dubtdBwcc_MeX8@jntp> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity JNTP-HashClient: jvOZvlfTF4tbemI-DF8MpiAR9hI JNTP-ThreadID: sxhQQgyUgiiv6OcO_6O_beeL7bk JNTP-Uri: http://news2.nemoweb.net/?DataID=LdiOEXosVQBwmzyUbXQtBoNVQOg@jntp User-Agent: Nemo/0.999a JNTP-OriginServer: news2.nemoweb.net Date: Fri, 12 Jul 24 13:44:41 +0000 Organization: Nemoweb JNTP-Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/126.0.0.0 Safari/537.36 Injection-Info: news2.nemoweb.net; posting-host="e8cbf2474b472b9bb79db3dccb6a856bc1d05409"; logging-data="2024-07-12T13:44:41Z/8944934"; posting-account="4@news2.nemoweb.net"; mail-complaints-to="julien.arlandis@gmail.com" JNTP-ProtocolVersion: 0.21.1 JNTP-Server: PhpNemoServer/0.94.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-JNTP-JsonNewsGateway: 0.96 From: Richard Hachel Bytes: 3777 Lines: 73 Le 12/07/2024 à 13:58, "Paul.B.Andersen" a écrit : > > It is experimentally proved that no accelerator would work > if charged particles didn't behave _exactly_ as predicted by SR. > > Doctor Richard Hachel's theory predicts that protons behave > very differently from what SR predicts. No. > Doctor Richard Hachel's theory is experimentally falsified. No. > It's no way you can save your theory, Richard! The experimental verifications relate to points which are similar in the two theories (or rather in the two relativistic geometries, those of Minkowski and that of Hachel). For example, if we ask a physicist to calculate the time taken by an accelerated particle to travel a distance x, the physicist will immediately use Hachel's formula and he will be right. To=(x/c).sqrt(1+2c²/ax) If we ask him the opposite, that is to say to calculate the distance as a function of time, the physicists will still use Hachel's formula, which is the reciprocal, and he will still be right. x=(c²/a)[sqrt(1+a²To²/c²) -1] You cannot therefore say, "the physicists contradict you", since they use the same formulas as me, to prove a physical reality that is obvious on paper, and obvious in the laboratories. Now, on other things, they have to correct their equations, and they have to prove experimentally whether it is Minkowski or me. On theoretical paper, it is impossible that Minkowski and his physicists can be right, what they say is not consistent and logical. I have corrected a few equations that are not correct among theirs, and all they have to do is verify experimentally what can only be correct both mathematically and physically. Example of corrections: x=(1/2).a.Tr² Vri=a.Tr Tr (tau) =sqrt(2x/a) To²=Tr²+Et² Voi/c=[1+c²/2ax]^-(1/2) To=Tr.sqrt(1+(1/4)Vri²/c²) Eg=mc².sqrt(1+2ax/c²) Ec=mc².[sqrt(1+2ax/c²) -1] p=m.sqrt(2ax) a'=a(1+Vr²/c²)^(-3/2) a'=a(1-Vo²/c²)^(3/2) These equations contradict the predictions of proper times and instantaneous observable velocities. It is therefore the experimental verification of these two values ​​that we must seek (which is not simple experimentally). R.H.