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Failed to connect to MySQL: (1203) User howardkn already has more than 'max_user_connections' active connectionsPath: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Peter Moylan Newsgroups: sci.lang,alt.usage.english Subject: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ... Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2024 23:43:02 +1000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2024 15:43:07 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="33d5e56b590ea693cac548429c79fc78"; logging-data="3588385"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19v/nfOsab1Bx7p3Dl8LBDn" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (OS/2; Warp 4.5; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.8.0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:6ruCXeWam9fz5Yr56n16/8p9IB0= In-Reply-To: Bytes: 2441 On 27/07/24 23:19, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > On 2024-07-26, Helmut Richter wrote: > >> I am very skeptical about "fully precise" transcriptions. In every >> language I know, the range of pronunciations that native speakers produce >> and that other native speakers perceive as distinct and free from dialect >> is much broader than a fully precise transcription would specify. > > Related: > "Annals of intervocalic coronal reduction" > https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=65139 > > Mark Liberman has recently been hammering home the point that English > words in fluent speech are frequently not pronounced as you would > think they are. Sure, but that's because pronunciation is primary, and spelling only an approximation to the way we speak. -- Peter Moylan peter@pmoylan.org http://www.pmoylan.org Newcastle, NSW