Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) Newsgroups: sci.lang,alt.usage.english Subject: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ... Date: 26 Jul 2024 21:12:15 GMT Organization: Stefan Ram Lines: 20 Expires: 1 Jul 2025 11:59:58 GMT Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de s8a0WO66MfnGk1mT5cI7BAxZnrR5d8XMx34+RBRzjMdmzo Cancel-Lock: sha1:j9Y3XlY9okq14/rKmZGtu55qlWE= sha256:QKfQ0FnMq6822i8zfPnOfKkhbh7fqswxOJl4ovy9d+o= X-Copyright: (C) Copyright 2024 Stefan Ram. All rights reserved. Distribution through any means other than regular usenet channels is forbidden. It is forbidden to publish this article in the Web, to change URIs of this article into links, and to transfer the body without this notice, but quotations of parts in other Usenet posts are allowed. X-No-Archive: Yes Archive: no X-No-Archive-Readme: "X-No-Archive" is set, because this prevents some services to mirror the article in the web. But the article may be kept on a Usenet archive server with only NNTP access. X-No-Html: yes Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2514 ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) wrote or quoted: >And this "uw" is what some authors write as [ʊu]! Both >notations express that the first part is more open than the >second part, they just differ in whether the author sees the >first part to be more open than the cardinal [u] or the >second part to be closer than a cardinal [u] . . . But why don't we let Peter explain? |No, [U] is the not-quite-high rounded back lax one in "book," and [u] is |the high rounded back tense one in "boon." | |/u/ = [U] |/uw/ = [u] '----------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter T. Daniels on 2003-08-12 03:36:20+00:00 in alt.usage.english, Subject: viral words It's kind of trippy how the /phonemic/ spelling "uw" here actually nails the diphthong better than its supposed /phonetic/ twin "u"!