Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Hypothetical possibilities --- Complete Proof Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2024 11:32:23 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 48 Message-ID: References: <9f3112e056ad6eebf35f940c34b802b46addcad4@i2pn2.org> <9d2f2d8a1bf9614b9d8ab56bd500a78075b365e4@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2024 18:32:24 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="3121e7e48560b53e45601f59b50fa691"; logging-data="2367977"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+82AxQw1OXuEm2+YtYnD66" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:4skXZq2ise6XzB0DjUjQTO2apjo= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <9d2f2d8a1bf9614b9d8ab56bd500a78075b365e4@i2pn2.org> Bytes: 4115 On 8/1/2024 11:11 AM, joes wrote: > Am Thu, 01 Aug 2024 09:30:00 -0500 schrieb olcott: >> On 8/1/2024 9:23 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >>> Op 01.aug.2024 om 15:29 schreef olcott: >>>> On 8/1/2024 8:12 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >>>>> Op 01.aug.2024 om 14:20 schreef olcott: >>>>>> On 8/1/2024 3:10 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >>>>>>> Op 31.jul.2024 om 23:23 schreef olcott: >>>>>>>> On 7/31/2024 3:01 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >>>>>>>>> Op 31.jul.2024 om 17:14 schreef olcott: >>>>>>>>>> On 7/31/2024 3:44 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Op 31.jul.2024 om 06:09 schreef olcott: > >>>>> The trace stops and hides what happens when 000015d2 is called. >>>>> Olcott is hiding the conditional branch instructions in the >>>>> recursion. >>>> These next lines conclusively prove that DDD is being correctly >>>> emulated by HHH after DDD calls HHH(DDD). >>> It also shows that HHH when simulating itself, does not reach the end >>> of its own simulation. >> If you weren't a clueless wonder you would understand that DDD correctly >> emulated by HHH including HHH emulating itself emulated DDD has no end >> of correct emulation. > It does if the simulated HHH aborts, but its simulating copy preempts > that. Indeed, it has no choice, but if it didn't abort, the simulation > wouldn't abort either. Therefore it can't simulate itself. > If simulating halt decider H correctly simulates its input D until H correctly determines that its simulated D would never stop running unless aborted then H can abort its simulation of D and correctly report that D specifies a non-halting sequence of configurations. I spent two years carefully composing the above before I even asked professor Sipser to review it. DDD is correctly emulated by HHH until HHH sees the same never ending pattern that anyone else can see. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer